Help! Firefox and My Site!

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here is my link

removed link

I know it has to be an error that would make it not viewable in firefox.
If someone has any kind of reference of whats needed for a site to be viewable in firefox&IE
or if someone can tell me what Im doing wrong

Thank you :)
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using frames is a bad idea
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A quick google search shows that firefox doesn't have or there are limited activex plugins and it appears that you have activex embedded in the site. Could that be the problem?
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Bad coding is #1
If you have activex, that may lead to the problem as Don mentioned.
Frames is a bad thing.
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Bogey wrote:
Bad coding is #1
If you have activex, that may lead to the problem as Don mentioned.
Frames is a bad thing.


Frames are bad? Or they just dont work in firefox?
Which codes are bad?

I want to fix it, so if you can be as detailed as possible in "whats wrong" (if you see it)..that helps... :)
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For a start you should check your code with W3C validation,

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.augustcandi.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0

I had a look at your source code and it isn't pretty, if I were you I'd seriously think about a rewrite of the site making sure you get everything right from the basics.
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theak here just told you what I mean by bad coding. Your not very organized so its hard to say where you messed up.

Frames are bad in general. If you can try to stay away from them and fix all of those errors shown in W3 Validator, or try to fix as many as you can.

I don't have much time today to talk about it, so if you haven't fixed this problem by Monday I'll help you out on Monday.
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Bogey wrote:
theak here just told you what I mean by bad coding. Your not very organized so its hard to say where you messed up.

Frames are bad in general. If you can try to stay away from them and fix all of those errors shown in W3 Validator, or try to fix as many as you can.

I don't have much time today to talk about it, so if you haven't fixed this problem by Monday I'll help you out on Monday.


not organized? every code is seperate from each other..
im coming in here humbly asking for help, ...but im not a poodle...so please provide the criticism without insulting me or my intelligence...thank you :)
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I should make every tag without caps. Sometimes you open a tag with caps and close without, like:
<I>....</i>.

Why do you use frames? You can get the same effect with div's, css and php includes. Frames cause much trouble, they mess up the lay-out sometimes and they're very bad for your google ranking.
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Fabinator wrote:
I should make every tag without caps. Sometimes you open a tag with caps and close without, like:
<I>....</i>.

Why do you use frames? You can get the same effect with div's, css and php includes. Frames cause much trouble, they mess up the lay-out sometimes and they're very bad for your google ranking.


thank you soo much..i didnt know that affects it..

i dont know php yet
im probably going to try doing it in div's
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I think what turned Bogey off is the fact that there are the following things that could be done better:

1. All those line breaks make the actual page 'bigger' ... let's say you have 200 hits a day ... and the line breaks in your code takes up a total of 5kb (just an example) ... that means that there is 200*5 (1000 kb) of unnecessary downloads a day ... which is an absolute waste of bandwidth ...

2. Inline styles: instead of having something like the following:
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<div style="top:670px; left:938PX;position:absolute" align="center" id="cboxdiv">

You could rather use the following:
HTML:
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<link rel='stylesheet' type='text/css' href='stylesheet.css' />
<div class='cboxdiv'></div>
  1. <link rel='stylesheet' type='text/css' href='stylesheet.css' />
  2. <div class='cboxdiv'></div>

CSS: (inside "stylesheet.css")
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div.cboxdiv
{
position:absolute;
top:670px;
left:938px;
}
  1. div.cboxdiv
  2. {
  3. position:absolute;
  4. top:670px;
  5. left:938px;
  6. }


3. another thing is that you have styles that are 'fighting' each other ... like for instance:
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<div style="top:670px; left:938PX;position:absolute" align="center" id="cboxdiv">

in that part you're using absolute positioning, which measures a certain amount of pixels from the top and a certain from the left to determine where that div will be on the page, but in that same line you have "align='center'" which then 'fights' with the absolute positioning ... because absolute positioning will only center align a page on one resolution and not on all ...

4. Some of the tags that you are using is depreciated according to W3C ... fro example the <font></font> tag is now depreciated and can be replaced with something like the following:
Instead of using:
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<font size="3" color="55005e" face="verdana">
<center>
----------------
</center></b></FONT>
  1. <font size="3" color="55005e" face="verdana">
  2. <center>
  3. ----------------
  4. </center></b></FONT>

use something like:
HTML:
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<span class='bold3pt'>----------------</span>

CSS:
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span.bold3pt
{
font-size:3pt;
font-weight:bold;
text-align:center;
}
  1. span.bold3pt
  2. {
  3. font-size:3pt;
  4. font-weight:bold;
  5. text-align:center;
  6. }


4.the nesting of the tags aren't right in some places ... for example:
You have:
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<b>
<font size="3" color="55005e" face="verdana">
<center>
----------------
</center></b></FONT>
  1. <b>
  2. <font size="3" color="55005e" face="verdana">
  3. <center>
  4. ----------------
  5. </center></b></FONT>

which then looks like this (just put more simply)
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<b> (opening)
<font> (opening)
<center> (opening)
</center> (closing)
</b> (closing)
</font> (closing)
  1. <b> (opening)
  2. <font> (opening)
  3. <center> (opening)
  4. </center> (closing)
  5. </b> (closing)
  6. </font> (closing)

but it should actually be:
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<b> (opening)
<font> (opening)
<center> (opening)
</center> (closing)
</font> (closing)
</b> (closing)
  1. <b> (opening)
  2. <font> (opening)
  3. <center> (opening)
  4. </center> (closing)
  5. </font> (closing)
  6. </b> (closing)


5.
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<style type="text/css">
body {
background-image:url("images/acbacktile2.jpg");
background-attachment:fixed;
background-repeat:repeat;
background-position:top-center;
background-color:131212;
scrollbar-face-color:141215;
scrollbar-highlight-color:242324;
scrollbar-3dlight-color:242324;
scrollbar-shadow-color:242324;
scrollbar-darkshadow-color:242324;
scrollbar-arrow-color:26002a;
scrollbar-track-color:141215;}
</style>
  1. <style type="text/css">
  2. body {
  3. background-image:url("images/acbacktile2.jpg");
  4. background-attachment:fixed;
  5. background-repeat:repeat;
  6. background-position:top-center;
  7. background-color:131212;
  8. scrollbar-face-color:141215;
  9. scrollbar-highlight-color:242324;
  10. scrollbar-3dlight-color:242324;
  11. scrollbar-shadow-color:242324;
  12. scrollbar-darkshadow-color:242324;
  13. scrollbar-arrow-color:26002a;
  14. scrollbar-track-color:141215;}
  15. </style>

that should be in the <head> part ... not in the <body>

I think this should give you a good idea of what he was complaining about ... And no ... I know bogey and he will never insult someone (except for me) ... he was just mentioning that it is very unorganized ... which it is ...
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http://www.w3schools.com/tags/default.asp ... here is the list of HTML Tags from W3C ... see in there for depreciated tags as I mentioned in point number 4 ...
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What I was talking about... me insulting your intelligence? Look at this. I copied and pasted all of this... ALL ONE LINE!

Quote:
<html><head><title>augustcandi.com</title></head><frameset rows="100%" scrolling="yes" border="0"><frame src="http://augustcandi.kottonkandigrafiks.com"><frame src="http://webhosting.yahoo.com/forward.html" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" frameborder="0"></frameset></html>


I know that may not be the code that shows the problem but its the source of the page that I view. THAT what I was talking about.

Anyway, seems like you got it all fixed. Just a little constructive criticism here... frames make the page load slower. It loaded slowly for me and scrolling proved to be a pain in my behind.

There's an alternative way to do what you are probably trying to do. Make the scrolling on the center so the whole page would not stretch very far? Or so that you can edit one file and it shows the edited in every page that the info is located on?

Only for the scrolls
To accomplish the look of having scrolls and for that reason only you can use CSS. As the following example.

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<html>
<head>
<title>
<style language="text/css">
.scroll {
width: 200px;
height: 100px;
overflow: auto;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div class="scroll">
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
</div>
</body>
</html>
  1. <html>
  2. <head>
  3. <title>
  4. <style language="text/css">
  5. .scroll {
  6. width: 200px;
  7. height: 100px;
  8. overflow: auto;
  9. }
  10. </style>
  11. </head>
  12. <body>
  13. <div class="scroll">
  14. <p>scrolling example</p>
  15. <p>scrolling example</p>
  16. <p>scrolling example</p>
  17. <p>scrolling example</p>
  18. <p>scrolling example</p>
  19. <p>scrolling example</p>
  20. </div>
  21. </body>
  22. </html>


If you want a border you can just add the following CSS into the CSS.

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border: 1;
border-color: #000000;
  1. border: 1;
  2. border-color: #000000;


For inclusions
If you are using frames to include some content that would be viewed on other pages and you want every of those content to change only once so you wouldn't have to change every piece of code on all of those pages, you could use a little easy PHP to accomplish this easily.

The PHP code for incusions is as follows.

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<?php include('some_file.ext') ?>


"ext" in that stands for extension since the file in include statement could be anything; PHP, HTML... etc. etc.

I would recommend using the following PHP statement for inclusions since they avoid errors which can come up with if you include the same file twice... like if you have an include statement in home.php including news.php which includes home.php

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<?php include_once('some_file.ext') ?>


PHP is a server side language so you wouldn't be able to just view it so just use your server if it supports PHP. The include statement, let me tell you, includes the codes from that page into the page that you are including them into. Like the following code...

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<html>
<head>
<title>Some title</title>
</head>
<body>
<p>This is some <?php include_once('some.html') ?> that would be viewed in the browser.</p>
</body>
</html>
  1. <html>
  2. <head>
  3. <title>Some title</title>
  4. </head>
  5. <body>
  6. <p>This is some <?php include_once('some.html') ?> that would be viewed in the browser.</p>
  7. </body>
  8. </html>

And some.html would be something like...

Code: [ Select ]
sentences written for the only sole purpose of this example


which would be parsed as...

Quote:

This is some sentences written for the only sole purpose of this example that would be viewed in the browser.



Combine the two together
You can combine the two together and have it something like this...

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<html>
<head>
<title>
<style language="text/css">
.scroll {
width: 200px;
height: 100px;
overflow: auto;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div class="scroll">
<?php include_once('some.html') ?>
</div>
</body>
</html>
  1. <html>
  2. <head>
  3. <title>
  4. <style language="text/css">
  5. .scroll {
  6. width: 200px;
  7. height: 100px;
  8. overflow: auto;
  9. }
  10. </style>
  11. </head>
  12. <body>
  13. <div class="scroll">
  14. <?php include_once('some.html') ?>
  15. </div>
  16. </body>
  17. </html>


and some.html would be...
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<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
  1. <p>scrolling example</p>
  2. <p>scrolling example</p>
  3. <p>scrolling example</p>
  4. <p>scrolling example</p>
  5. <p>scrolling example</p>
  6. <p>scrolling example</p>


I just think (in my opinion) that is the best way to do it.

You may already know all of these. I don't know if you do or do not so do not get angry and accuse me of insulting your intelligence or anything.
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Bogey wrote:
You may already know all of these. I don't know if you do or do not so do not get angry and accuse me of insulting your intelligence or anything.


"Your not very organized so its hard to say where you messed up."

couldve been worded to NOT insult me by saying "The codes need to be more organized"

its a big difference from calling me "not very organized" all together...

but moving on..i love CONSTRUCTIVE help..things that can help me not things to put me down

that is why im here and thank you for the help

oh and all in one line doesnt determine my intelligence..it only means that i needed help with that code.

a code doesnt determine someones mind or life...
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righteous_trespasser wrote:
I think what turned Bogey off is the fact that there are the following things that could be done better:

1. All those line breaks make the actual page 'bigger' ... let's say you have 200 hits a day ... and the line breaks in your code takes up a total of 5kb (just an example) ... that means that there is 200*5 (1000 kb) of unnecessary downloads a day ... which is an absolute waste of bandwidth ...

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thank you..this helped out alot!
bogey shouldnt be getting turned off/on in a help form..lol
he said "i" was not organized..not my page or my codes...its good tho..thank you
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Bogey wrote:

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<html>
<head>
<title>
<style language="text/css">
.scroll {
width: 200px;
height: 100px;
overflow: auto;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div class="scroll">
<?php include_once('some.html') ?>
</div>
</body>
</html>
  1. <html>
  2. <head>
  3. <title>
  4. <style language="text/css">
  5. .scroll {
  6. width: 200px;
  7. height: 100px;
  8. overflow: auto;
  9. }
  10. </style>
  11. </head>
  12. <body>
  13. <div class="scroll">
  14. <?php include_once('some.html') ?>
  15. </div>
  16. </body>
  17. </html>


and some.html would be...
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<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
<p>scrolling example</p>
  1. <p>scrolling example</p>
  2. <p>scrolling example</p>
  3. <p>scrolling example</p>
  4. <p>scrolling example</p>
  5. <p>scrolling example</p>
  6. <p>scrolling example</p>




Im going to try this
it sounds easy

One thing though
I fixed the frame , but for some reason the div's are still overlapping.
Are you guys telling me that div's are NOT accepted by firefox
I see the alternative coding included in the CSS and Im going to try that
Just trying to be clear cause too my knowledge
div's are acceptable coding...firefox doesnt accept? or is it that firefox accepts div's in a specific format that im not using?

again thank you this was ALOT of helpful info
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Bogey wrote:
For inclusions
If you are using frames to include some content that would be viewed on other pages and you want every of those content to change only once so you wouldn't have to change every piece of code on all of those pages, you could use a little easy PHP to accomplish this easily.


Hey Bogey,

What a coincidence that you brought up using PHP instead of frames to pull in external content. I just had someone ask me about that last weekend.. he has people using iFrames to pull some video content from his site to theirs. I told him that he probably should try and steer away from iFrames since they're deprecated. Would you recommend PHP for this and would this code work?

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<?php include_once('http://flgnews.com/archive/102607/fullshow.wmv') ?>


In other words, can I use a global link and do I have to change the extension to '.ext'?

Sorry if this is a dumb question.. kinda new to PHP.


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jameson5555 wrote:
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<?php include_once('http://flgnews.com/archive/102607/fullshow.wmv') ?>


That should work. When I put ".ext" I meant that to be generic... meaning "extension". I know that the extension could be htm, html, php... but I'm not so sure about WMVs. I doubt that it would work... all it does is put the code found in the include address and place it where the <?php include_once('...') ?> is found.

I tried that and it failed saying that some server configuration is not set right so if you are going to have other sites so if you want other people to include your videos on their sites, I don't know about their server configurations... if it works with the right configurations than I suggest you show both ways... an iframe and a PHP inclusion code for it.

I'm pretty sure you can give the code in <object...>...</object> form to avoid both PHP and iFrames and all this inclusion mess... like the fallowing code...

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<object id="MediaPlayer" width=320 height=286 classid="CLSID:22D6f312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95" standby="Loading Windows Media Player components..." type="application/x-oleobject" codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,7,1112">

<param name="filename" value="yourmovie.wmv">
<param name="Showcontrols" value="True">
<param name="autoStart" value="True">

<embed src="yourmovie.wmv" width=320 height=240 autostart="True" type="application/x-mplayer2" name="MediaPlayer" filename="yourmovie.wmv" showcontrols="True"></embed>

</object>
  1. <object id="MediaPlayer" width=320 height=286 classid="CLSID:22D6f312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95" standby="Loading Windows Media Player components..." type="application/x-oleobject" codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,7,1112">
  2. <param name="filename" value="yourmovie.wmv">
  3. <param name="Showcontrols" value="True">
  4. <param name="autoStart" value="True">
  5. <embed src="yourmovie.wmv" width=320 height=240 autostart="True" type="application/x-mplayer2" name="MediaPlayer" filename="yourmovie.wmv" showcontrols="True"></embed>
  6. </object>

or simply
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<embed src="yourmovie.wmv" width=320 height=240 autostart="True" type="application/x-mplayer2" name="MediaPlayer" filename="yourmovie.wmv" showcontrols="True"></embed>


I think the first one is better though. I got them off... http://forum.dreamhosters.com/webdesign ... v-file.htm for the record and so not to look like I'm plaigerizing here.

DosieRed wrote:
"Your not very organized so its hard to say where you messed up."

couldve been worded to NOT insult me by saying "The codes need to be more organized"

its a big difference from calling me "not very organized" all together...

but moving on..i love CONSTRUCTIVE help..things that can help me not things to put me down

that is why im here and thank you for the help

oh and all in one line doesnt determine my intelligence..it only means that i needed help with that code.

a code doesnt determine someones mind or life...


I'll counter that a little and beg to differ with you on that statement. If all in one line doesn't determine your intelligence... than you wouldn't have being insulted when I said "Your not very organized" by which I meant your code is not so organized. My thinking is that the code had to be typed in by somebody and is like an "image" of that somebody on how it looks. I'm through with this. Sorry for insulting you and your intelligence.

Also, notice the spelling... "Your..." means ownership... I left out the words "code is" because I was thinking about a lot of things at the time. If I meant YOU are not organized that would have looks like "You're...". Just a little thing to notice which can cause big misunderstandings among people as shown here.

DosiaRed wrote:
One thing though

I fixed the frame , but for some reason the div's are still overlapping.

Are you guys telling me that div's are NOT accepted by firefox

I see the alternative coding included in the CSS and Im going to try that

Just trying to be clear cause too my knowledge

div's are acceptable coding...firefox doesnt accept? or is it that firefox accepts div's in a specific format that im not using?


Firefox accepts DIVs and is more complient to the web standards then IE is... your site is probably more IE than Firefox :).

I see the following CSS in every frame you are using...

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<style type="text/css"><!--
A:link{color:75b4fc;text-decoration:none}
A:visited{color:75b4fc;text-decoration:NONE}
A:active{color:75b4fc;text-decoration:NONE}
A:hover{color:664e75;text-decoration:;cursor:;
font-weight:}
--></style>

<style type="text/css">
body {
background-image:url("images/acbacktile2.jpg");
background-attachment:fixed;
background-repeat:repeat;
background-position:top-center;
background-color:131212;
scrollbar-face-color:141215;
scrollbar-highlight-color:242324;
scrollbar-3dlight-color:242324;
scrollbar-shadow-color:242324;
scrollbar-darkshadow-color:242324;
scrollbar-arrow-color:26002a;
scrollbar-track-color:141215;}
</style>
  1. <style type="text/css"><!--
  2. A:link{color:75b4fc;text-decoration:none}
  3. A:visited{color:75b4fc;text-decoration:NONE}
  4. A:active{color:75b4fc;text-decoration:NONE}
  5. A:hover{color:664e75;text-decoration:;cursor:;
  6. font-weight:}
  7. --></style>
  8. <style type="text/css">
  9. body {
  10. background-image:url("images/acbacktile2.jpg");
  11. background-attachment:fixed;
  12. background-repeat:repeat;
  13. background-position:top-center;
  14. background-color:131212;
  15. scrollbar-face-color:141215;
  16. scrollbar-highlight-color:242324;
  17. scrollbar-3dlight-color:242324;
  18. scrollbar-shadow-color:242324;
  19. scrollbar-darkshadow-color:242324;
  20. scrollbar-arrow-color:26002a;
  21. scrollbar-track-color:141215;}
  22. </style>


I suggest you make that as an external CSS and link to it with your site. With the following code.

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<link rel="stylesheet" href="url.css" type="text/css" />


Where "url.css" is the address to your file saved as ".css". You can save it in notebook. You probably know this so I'm saying this just for the record.

And once again, I never meant to insult you or your intelligence.
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Thanks for the tips Bogey!

I agree.. I'm trying to get my friend to switch over from iframes to objects, but I think he has a coder who is going to convert the whole mess to Flash video. I think that would give us a lot more flexibility. Also, the autostart=false doesn't work in Firefox, so I think Flash might be the only way to go.
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Bogey wrote:
Where "url.css" is the address to your file saved as ".css". You can save it in notebook. You probably know this so I'm saying this just for the record.

And once again, I never meant to insult you or your intelligence.


thank you ...and thank you !

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