***How much do i charge for creating web-site***

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Post March 7th, 2006, 3:34 pm

I'm creating html website for a company, it uses css and some javascript for forms, validation etc.

Its the first time i've have done this and i'm unsure of how much to charge :/

do I evaluate the cost per page? can someone please give some reference on this..
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Post March 7th, 2006, 3:34 pm

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Post March 7th, 2006, 5:10 pm

It depends on the company. In my experience most web design companies have a starting price of 4 to 5 thousand dollars (which I think is excessive). I land most of my business by pricing my websites well under this standard figure.

I would stay away from charging by the hour. Instead use a fixed price. My basic charging outline is below (Australian dollars)

site design - $200
each page - $100
flash feature - $100

Then for updates to the site I charge by the hour (usually 25 an hour).

hope this helps :)
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Post March 9th, 2006, 6:11 am

you certainly have helped me, thx for the advice..
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Post March 10th, 2006, 8:06 am

philtrated wrote:
site design - $200
each page - $100
flash feature - $100


I love those prices. Innate Media Group (http://www.innatemediagroup.com/) wanted to charge me 1600 for coding and 1200 for design. The design was VERY simple. The coding did not even include flash or anything fancy, just strait up PHP/Java/CSS/HTML/JS. Overprices sons 'a' bitches.
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Post March 10th, 2006, 9:03 am

$750.00 for the 1st 5 pages
$100.00 each additional page
$50.00/hr maint/changes

On a new site, free maint/changes (up to a point) until client accepts it. Now, if we agree on a site then later, "Oh, add this" or "Change that",... Well, it will cost you because it NOT part of the ORIGINAL agreed to job.
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Post March 11th, 2006, 8:48 pm

I agree about not charging on an hourly rate. With my first freelance job, I charged by the hour for everything ($20/hr.) and it got pretty cumbersome for several reasons. I tried to keep a log of the times i worked but that was very tedious as I usually work on designs on/off randomly throughout the day. Also, it didn't take me very long at all to get the design and several pages(about 10) completly done. Which saved the client money but I didnt feel it represented my work at all.

So settle on a particular price point for 5-7 beginning pages and add $ for additional pages as well as advanced coding/flash and such.
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Post March 11th, 2006, 10:19 pm

Hi,

I'm relatively new too, and I charge per page.

$105 per HTML page
no additional charge for CSS - because that's all in the game (as far as I'm concerned)

Forms are charged as a page.

Thereafter, I give my clients 30 days to contact me regarding content or design changes (for free) - not including page additions.

Also, make sure you have a contract. You don't run into problems with most large companies, but it's always good to have one. Especially if they are providing photos and content - because you need to cover your butt for copyright reasons.

My contract states the following:
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Seller warrants that the services shall be delivered free of rightful claim of any third person by way of copyright infringement, and if buyer receives notice of any claim of such infringement, it shall, within 10 days, notify seller of such claim. If buyer fails to forward such notice to seller, it shall be deem to have released seller from this warranty as to such claim. Seller is not liable for any legal action that may arise from design, or any artwork supplied by the buyer"


Also, it's good to include some type of "Excuse for Nonperformance clause:
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Seller's obligations under this agreement are accepted subject to strickes, labor troubles (including strikes or labor troubles affecting any suppliers of sellers), floods, fires, acts of God, accidents, delays, shortage of cars, contingencies of transportation, and other causes of like or different character beyond the control of seller. Impossibility of performace by reason of legislative, executive, or judicial act of any governmental authority shall excuse performance of or delay in performance of this agreement. If the buyer deviates from the production schedule provided, the finish date will change accordingly.


Of course, there are a bunch of other things that should go in your contract, including payment terms, deposits (I require a 1/2 deposit upon commencement of work) and a 25% kill fee.

In determining your hourly rate, there are some very useful formulas online --
You should look these up... They take into account your overhead, estimated annual hours of work, any additional estimates of set fees, hours you work annually and how much you'd settle to make per year.

Something like this:
Expected Salary + Overhead - Estimate of Yearly set fees / Annual hours you want to work.

There may be more to this formula, and I don't think I have it on me -- but that's how I figured my hourly rate.

Hope this helps... Looks like everyone has given you about the same advice.

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Post March 14th, 2006, 12:56 pm

I personally started off at the lowest price I could imagine working for, and stuck to it. I got royally ripped off with my first few clients... charged them $65 for full 5-10 page sites, which tooks weeks to complete (and many, many hours).

With each client I gradually raised the price until it reached a level where I was able to pay bills while still being affordable.

This definitely involved a lot of trial and error, but I think it also helped me avoid the common web designer syndrome known as "No Clients." :-)

Hope this helps.
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Post March 15th, 2006, 6:55 am

I believe the pricing should be be worked out on a case by case basis.

(the time you put in + difficulty of site + size of site + any out sourcing etc)

This should be your base... once you have this you should then add a bit more per company based on the following...

What the company can afford and the benefit the site will have to the company

I would charge a small company probably the bare minimum i could to get their business, i will still make money off them but my margins will be small.

If a large company wanted the same site i would increase my charges as it would be visited by more people and the company will probably make a lot more money with it than the smaller company because of their advirtising potential etc.
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Post March 16th, 2006, 2:16 am

The market price in Malaysia for web design is calculated based on per page. The price is about USD 45 - USD 55 per page. For Flash animation ( Flash Intro page about 20 seconds ) the price is about USD 80 - USD 90.
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Post March 16th, 2006, 2:40 am

[quote="jamestcs2"]The market price in Malaysia for web design is calculated based on per page. The price is about USD 45 - USD 55 per page. For Flash animation ( Flash Intro page about 20 seconds ) the price is about USD 80 - USD 90.

Isn't the cost of living much less over there though? If i charged that much per page i would go into the red and lose my home lol.
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Post March 16th, 2006, 10:26 pm

Actually, if you're just starting off, and are trying to just make some bucks, then try to keep the prices down, or they may decline your offer and charge. Like me for example. I'm only charging about $100 per web application/system I build, when I could be charging say $500, because I just want to make a little money firstly.

Once you've established a good amount, and have greater experience, "then" you should consider moving up the prices.
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Post March 18th, 2006, 2:29 am

the thing is, how big/complex are each website you make, and how much time have you put into them?

i reacon that the more complex a website is, the more it should be sold for, for reasonable amount.
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Post August 31st, 2008, 3:30 am

philtrated wrote:
It depends on the company. In my experience most web design companies have a starting price of 4 to 5 thousand dollars (which I think is excessive). I land most of my business by pricing my websites well under this standard figure.

I would stay away from charging by the hour. Instead use a fixed price. My basic charging outline is below (Australian dollars)

site design - $200
each page - $100
flash feature - $100

Then for updates to the site I charge by the hour (usually 25 an hour).

hope this helps :)


I am starting one to (tastysite) hence the user name any way I have in my pricing layout thing and I say updates ase free! I think for the cost of $25 I would rather have happy customers.
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Post August 31st, 2008, 4:04 am

just do like i do, charge the hole project with one price depending on it's complexity and motivation. and most important ask the client what budget he wants to spend on the project. I take for a xhtml/css site 200$ and higher if he wants programing.. prices can go up as much as 500$ per project.
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