How do you produce your html?

Please choose one of the above. Just curious how you guys design your webpages, if its not on the poll above let me know and I will add it.

its a combination between dreamweaver and notepad, but dreamweaver has a mind of its own sometimes, and pisses me off to no end with tables! so i hasve to usually go into notepad and edit it manually to fix it...

I have to admit, that the majority of my work goes through Frontpage XP. There
isn't a damn thing wrong with it either.

People, coders mostly, complain that it clutters up the code, and makes for messy
web pages....I 100% disagree. Take a look at any of my web pages, and then
try to tell me that it's messy, or looks bad, or anything negative in terms of the
way it looks. You can't.

Dreamweaver is VERY NICE, especially MX. But as Guru said, I hate the way it
handles tables. Since I am a table-layer, using tables on tables on tables to
create my pages, I use Frontpage to start out, and get my boundries.

At some point in adding the content, I always go to DWMX and clean it up, and
finish it off there. I can code by hand...and make a lot of adjustments by hand in
notepad, but I personally see no point in sitting down and coding it all by hand,
especially when I feel my pages are far superior to a coders, in terms of
design.

Sorry, I didn't mean to post so much on this, but I had just had an argument with
a bunch of other webmasters about this, and they were proven wrong on every
point, even by vote from visitors in a poll.

Anyways...I use graphical editors, because I like to see what I'm making as I
make it, and then adjust from there. It's all a personal preference though...

/unflux

can i change my vote to "no f***ing way!" haha j/k actually it was hard to ween myself off front page because as unflux said, it is a very user friendly interface. But the problem i have with front page is it is trying to be to damn smart for its own good. i put in some code with out using the insert html feature and bam it tries to make it proprietary microshaft crap. have you ever try removing the meta tags from front page only to discover it got put back in there?? ughh thats irritating.. haha or have you ever tried pasting code directly into the code area ony to find the FP converted it into html style like "%20%2e%2ecrap%2ecom" yet another very irritating feature...

oh and BTW when i told you i use notepad for alot of stuff its true, however i LOVE cute html as it has some really cool features like code coded code and line numbers as well as mass replace like if i have 20 identical documents or 20 docs with a snippet of code that is identical i just do a mass replace of all docs at once and BAM 1 hours work done in 2 seconds.. two thumbs up for cute html!

My 2 cents...

Yeah I used CuteHTML the other day for a mass replace on unmelted. I had some code that animaged my jpeg image at the top (yes jpeg), but anyway it seemed to be eating a ton of cpu, maxing it out, on the version 6's if IE. It had never done that on the earlier versions, so I am unsure why. So anyway I had about 250 pages to go through and doing it one at a time would have been a pain. So I used CuteHTML and was able to edit all of them in a matter of seconds. The mass replace feature is very handy.

the way things LOOK... no problem.. code is real easy to read but what it does is create EXTRA code.
like leading spaces used for indenting. Those leading spaces take up bandwidth.
Also.. it always adds font tags everywhere when it doesn't have to.

I agree...and that's usually what I hear about it. However, with the systems
people have today, 56k or not, it's irrelevant to speed. The bandwidth point, I
never really thought about. But I have a hard time believing it's significant. The
font tag thing is annoying, but it's not worth losing my techniques and styles over.

If I ever paste code into frontpage, I paste into notepad first then recopy...just a
quick lil' work-around.

My 2 cents on cute html = crap.

I understand all these points, as I said before, but I can't justify my designs for
pure principle of 'clean code.' And neither can my clients. [cha-ching]

/unflux

it's what makes this biz so great!

1000000 ways to do the same thing. And none of them are necessarily the 'right'
way.

/unflux

Hey i use notepad or if i want to make a quick page with only text and pictures on it ill use HotMetal pro if any of u have heard of that but the gaming site i made was done pretty much with notepad with a few added source code pieces from javascript sites cos im new to javascript it isnt spectacular but i like it as its my first proper site that ive put up
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ps http://www.tatsquad.com thats it

Metapad

aka: notepad on steriods!

I use DW, and anyone that says thats the easy way out is stupid. Fast and easy, or long and tedious.

long and tedious every time at least u learn something and know where ur going wrong in the code is it me or is there less and less raw coders out there these days?
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I learned HTML through DW. I can code a site in notepad now because of DW but I dont see the use.

i don't know i just have a thing with doing it with programs cos wen it comes to edit things u have to do it through the web editting program cos the source code looks dirty with all sorts of rubbish the program puts into it for no real reason wen u can just do it cleanly i don't know just personal choice i spose i know full well its a lot easier in dw but i never find the time to learn it lol at the moment im learning perl so html/xhtml is a distant memory lol
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You guys are going to laugh at me, but I use BBEdit (Mac ) or notepad for most stuff...at my old job they used GoLive which I hate, and I (very) occasionally use Dreamweaver.