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hello all, firstly, thanx to all those who replied to my "Speed test" post, you guys helped a lot.
ok, now heres the thing, this site:
http://www.billard-pavillon.de
seems to appear fine on my computer, but everyone else says i have a horisontal scroll bar at the bottom of the window.
i cant see this when i load the page on my computer, is this because of my screen resolution or what, i know it sounds like a dumb question, but im totally new at this game and im still learning.
my screen resolution is 1280x1024 and i using a 19" flat screen.

the second question:
how do i adjust the size of the main page in dreamweaver, the whole page consists of tables, but if i drag the tables smaller, i get an empty black area on the right hand side of the page.

again, sorry for the ignorance...

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steve0 wrote:
hello all, firstly, thanx to all those who replied to my "Speed test" post, you guys helped a lot.
ok, now heres the thing, this site:
http://www.billard-pavillon.de
seems to appear fine on my computer, but everyone else says i have a horisontal scroll bar at the bottom of the window.
i cant see this when i load the page on my computer, is this because of my screen resolution or what, i know it sounds like a dumb question, but im totally new at this game and im still learning.
my screen resolution is 1280x1024 and i using a 19" flat screen.

the second question:
how do i adjust the size of the main page in dreamweaver, the whole page consists of tables, but if i drag the tables smaller, i get an empty black area on the right hand side of the page.

again, sorry for the ignorance...

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Guten Morgen! Und sorgen Sie nicht sich um die Fragen, jeder beginnt irgendwo.

Well, here's the "problem", and it happens all the time when beginning design work; your graphics are so large that anyone with a 640x480 or even 800x600 resolution screen will see a bar that the bottom. You have something called 'logosmaller.jpg [ironicly enough] which is 502 pixels wide itself -- and doesn't even exist. :) However your HTML, generated with Dreamweaver, set up the template for the image all by itself, thusly making a space for it, regardless of whether the file was retrievable or not. :)
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<td width="68%" align="center"><img src="file:///C|/Documents%20and%20Settings/steve0/Desktop/New%20Folder%20(3)/images/logosmaller.jpg" width="502" height="179"></td>


By the by, in case you were wondering why it did not show up in the first place, it is being referenced as you can see from that snippet of code, from your C drive, NOT the actual web server. It may very well exist on a "c" drive someplace, but the reference has to be altered in the context for the web serving application -- much like all the other graphics you have. Just make this one, look like those. :)

Your second question is a tough one for me, since I have never used any sort of HTML generation software. If you make the tables smaller to that on your screen the whole thing appears to fit in a smaller space on *your* screen, but when you view it on the web page there's a black empty "bar" to the right of everything -- well, that's pretty much correct.
We have determined from the above that you view your system at 1280x1024, and you have made the resolution for your site much lower than that, ergo there's will be some background color spilling over into *your* viewable area. Presently, it is <ALIGN="center"> Which means the main table will always center the whole rendered page.

This is apparently what you want, however you wish to rid yourself of the bottom horiz scroll bar.

Just make the graphics (especially the logosmall.jpg one, well, smaller. Calculate your lowest common denominator, and build to that. If it's 640x480, then you have to make sure that you don't exceed that pixel resolution across your site.
As an example, you have two flags, auf Deutch and in English. one is 74 pixels wide, the other, 70. Each is encapsulated in a table which is variable depending upon the size of the viewers resolution.
It's set to 16% -- each of them -- to display the flags and the text.
On a 640x480 machine, that is 102.4 pixels *each*!

so lets add this up, 102.4 + 102.4 + 502 = 706.8 pixels. Now that explains why the 640x480 folks saw a bar, but 800x600?
Well, there is by default, some cellpadding and cellspacing which goes on. The best thing to do when building a site is;
A) Lower your screen resolution to match that of your LCD (Lowest common denominator -- the folks who have the lowest screen res you will build for) and
B) Turn on tale borders to 1 pixel, border=1 in the TABLE tag just so you can see how things will fit. Oh, and you can eliminate cellpadding and cellspacing by adding to to your table tags, cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0.

Hope that helps, and makes sense. I have only had one cup of coffee so far this morning. :)

Cheers.
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an excellent reply Daemonguy!!!
i turned down my screen resolution and everything seemed to fall into place from there, i also uploaded the logo again and made it much smaller!!. the site is looking much better now, although i have a problem placing the slideshow where it should be -(its at the bottom of the index page instead of where it should be - at the top where the billiard balls are)
im going to look into this design stuff a bit more, and maybe get myself a decent book.

thanx

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No problem. Frankly, I am just gratified it made any sense at all.
Must...go...get....coffee.

Cheers, and good luck.
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GET..... COFFEE......
could you have a look at the site again and tell me if it looks better from your end?
p.s.
how the hell do i get that slideshow to where it should be????

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steve0 wrote:
GET..... COFFEE......
could you have a look at the site again and tell me if it looks better from your end?
p.s.
how the hell do i get that slideshow to where it should be????

cheers

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Heh. I will, eventually.

Alright. First, the German flag is dandy at 1.6K, however, I would edit the British flag and reduce the file size (not pixel size) using more compression or change it to a GIF. Items with blocky colors (i.e. NOT photos) work better as gif's actually. It's a reduction in color palette versus lossy compression of jpgs.

Anyway... the logosmall image is still trying to come up, but it's not. Could be a change in spelling -- this one is logosmaller.jpg?

As for your slideshow. :) Heh. It's there, down at the bottom left. That's because your code for it is at the end of your document, outside the confines of the previous /body closure.

Up where you have this;
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<td align="center"><span class="style7"><span class="style10"><span class="style9"><img src="1.jpg" width=250 height=188></span></span></span></td>
  1. <td align="center"><span class="style7"><span class="style10"><span class="style9"><img src="1.jpg" width=250 height=188></span></span></span></td>


You should probably have this;

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<td align="center"><span class="style7"><span class="style10"><span class="style9"><img src="1.jpg" name='SlideShow' width=250 height=188></span></span></span></td>
  1. <td align="center"><span class="style7"><span class="style10"><span class="style9"><img src="1.jpg" name='SlideShow' width=250 height=188></span></span></span></td>


Also, remove the lower code altogether, because you are trying to open another body tag after closing the previous.

Move the part in there that says;
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onLoad="runSlideShow()"
  1. onLoad="runSlideShow()"

to the <BODY> tag way up at the top of the document.

It should all work after that.


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im on it now!

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thanx a lot for your help Daemonguy!!!
all seems to be better now (hopefully)
hope you have a cracking sunday!!
im off to the pub in a minute because i cant bear to be in front of this goddam computer anymore, whats your poison?
i`ll get you a couple in while im there!!
l8r
cheers

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steve0 wrote:
thanx a lot for your help Daemonguy!!!
all seems to be better now (hopefully)
hope you have a cracking sunday!!
im off to the pub in a minute because i cant bear to be in front of this goddam computer anymore, whats your poison?
i`ll get you a couple in while im there!!
l8r
cheers

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Hmm. In Germany? Hefe Weizen or Bitburger. ;)

I don't really drink beer much though, but ifyou are so inclined a nice single malt scotch would be the ticket. ;)

Cheers.
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ok ive got a highland park 18 year old here and a glenfarclas 1980 christmas edition cask strenght (numbered)
mmmmm
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ok ive got a highland park 18 year old here and a glenfarclas 1980 christmas edition cask strenght (numbered)
mmmmm


Sigh. I miss Europe sometimes. :)

I was in England for Wimbledon and picked up a 21 year old Glenfiddich, Havana Rum cask finish. Course, it's nearly gone now. :(

Enjoy!

Drink one for me.

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Glenfiddich Rare Collection 1937


say no more.........
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Sigh. I hate you now. :) Heh....

Enjoy!

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dont get me wrong, i dont actually own a bottle of glenfiddich 37, i wish i did though, they go for around 10,000 pounds sterling per bottle..

look at the bottom of this page...
http://uk.glenfiddich.com/shop/rare.html
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Ahh, I thought you *had* one. :)

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steve0 wrote:
hello all, firstly, thanx to all those who replied to my "Speed test" post, you guys helped a lot.
ok, now heres the thing, this site:
http://www.billard-pavillon.de
seems to appear fine on my computer, but everyone else says i have a horisontal scroll bar at the bottom of the window.
i cant see this when i load the page on my computer, is this because of my screen resolution or what, i know it sounds like a dumb question, but im totally new at this game and im still learning.
my screen resolution is 1280x1024 and i using a 19" flat screen.

the second question:
how do i adjust the size of the main page in dreamweaver, the whole page consists of tables, but if i drag the tables smaller, i get an empty black area on the right hand side of the page.

again, sorry for the ignorance...

steve0


I have no scroll in my bowser, but i'm also using 1152x864 rexolution. The site seems to be ok.

At the second question you can select your table and put width="100%" and in this way you will have the page width to screen, and you'll not have any horizontal scroll on any rezolution.
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steve0 wrote:
hello all, firstly, thanx to all those who replied to my "Speed test" post, you guys helped a lot.
ok, now heres the thing, this site:
http://www.billard-pavillon.de
seems to appear fine on my computer, but everyone else says i have a horisontal scroll bar at the bottom of the window.
i cant see this when i load the page on my computer, is this because of my screen resolution or what, i know it sounds like a dumb question, but im totally new at this game and im still learning.
my screen resolution is 1280x1024 and i using a 19" flat screen.

the second question:
how do i adjust the size of the main page in dreamweaver, the whole page consists of tables, but if i drag the tables smaller, i get an empty black area on the right hand side of the page.

again, sorry for the ignorance...

steve0


I have no scroll in my bowser, but i'm also using 1152x864 rexolution. The site seems to be ok.

At the second question you can select your table and put width="100%" and in this way you will have the page width to screen, and you'll not have any horizontal scroll on any rezolution.


He fixed it already. :)

Oh and you will have a scroll, if the sum of the objects pixel width is greater than the horizontal resolution of the viewer. (He fixed that one too :) )

Cheers!

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