please please help with page display problem

April 11th, 2004, 5:52 pm

I have created a web using Frontpage, I purchased a domain name from easily.co.uk and forwarded it to my server using their free web space, however the domain name does not show on any other page except the first page (and the name changes back to the servers address if I go to another page then return to the first page). I contacted easily.co.uk who said the following

The problem seems to be due to the way how your web pages are being programmed as far as I can see you are using some JavaScript which may well be breaking the frames as our web forwarding service is frames based as such our forwarding system cannot be altered and our redirect frame for web forwarding occupies the top frame.

In order to resolve this you can either change your coding on your web pages (please be aware that we do not offer web-development support), or get hosting directly 'behind' the domain name instead of using forwarding.

Also note that we do not provide any coding support and therefore not in a position to give you any such help

As I am new to web pages I wondered if anyone could look at my website and see if there is anything I can do to correct this - http://www.destinysmoonwithin.co.uk

Any help would be appreciated.

April 11th, 2004, 6:08 pm

Please do not cross-post your threads. Posting in a single forum is adequate.

You said that they are "forwarding" to your true location. You will actually need real hosting, with a virtualhost setup on the hosting site, and the WHOIS records pointing to the appropriate DNS servers.

[ATNO/TW]

April 11th, 2004, 6:17 pm

Well, they did give you the correct answer:

Quote:

The problem seems to be due to the way how your web pages are being programmed as far as I can see you are using some JavaScript which may well be breaking the frames as our web forwarding service is frames based as such our forwarding system cannot be altered and our redirect frame for web forwarding occupies the top frame.

I didn't take a close look at what they are talking about in your code, but it's obvious you are using domain forwarding it appears that your javascript breaks from that and thus displays the host where the page actually is vs. displaying your name.

April 11th, 2004, 6:21 pm

can you tell me more please about virtual webhosting - will I just be able to upload the site or do I need to change every page. However, my brother has site using the same server and domain name seller and the name in the address bar is correct on his pages.
please help

April 11th, 2004, 6:23 pm

Easy enough. You are breaking out of their frameset every time you include target="_top" in all your links.

You must remove that target from all links in order to not break out of their frameset.

Example:

You must change <a target="_top" href="zodiac_area.htm">
To this instead.... <a href="zodiac_area.htm">

You must repeat this with every link if you do not want to break out of the frameset they use to mask your true URL of http://homepage.ntlworld.com/janet.wilson47/ and if you want to keep the http://www.destinysmoonwithin.co.uk/ destination in the address bar of the browser.

P.S.

The sound/music embedding technique you are using will only play sound/music in MSIE browser. Other major browsers play no sound/music at all. If you are interested in correct cross-browser music embedding, then let me know and I'll tell you what needs to be changed.

April 11th, 2004, 6:29 pm

In addition, you must completely remove <base target="_top"> from each and every page at your site that contains that line. You cannot target the "top" at all if you want to prevent your pages from breaking out of their frameset.

April 11th, 2004, 6:48 pm

LOL!!! Looks like somebody just merged 2 threads into one. My previous 2 responses were in direct response to the one and only post in this thread at that time... the initial post by natrul.



But now that other posts have been merged into this one thread, 2 things...

1. My first 2 responses of course will still apply if you continue to use a URL redirection service (as you are using now).

2. If you go with Axe's solution of obtaining a "real" hosting service, instead of URL redirection service (now in use), then none of the changes I indicated will be needed.

April 11th, 2004, 6:54 pm

First of all you're on the right track I don't want to change to a "real" hosting server.
Secondly I changed everything you said and it works when I click all the links but when I try to return to the home page the url changes back the http://www.janet.wilson etc not http://www.destinysmoonwithin.

thanks so far

April 11th, 2004, 7:03 pm

natrul wrote:

First of all you're on the right track I don't want to change to a "real" hosting server.
Secondly I changed everything you said and it works when I click all the links but when I try to return to the home page the url changes back the http://www.janet.wilson etc not http://www.destinysmoonwithin.

thanks so far

None of your pages will change back to the true URL if indeed you removed target="_top" from each and every page. This is also true of pressing the "back" button on your browser as well as clicking on all properly changed links in your pages.

Let me go and maneuver through your site quickly and then post back....

April 11th, 2004, 7:05 pm

I really appreciate your help - this has been giving me a headache for over a week now.

I'm not very good with html (as you might have noticed!!)

April 11th, 2004, 7:09 pm

Errr.... everything seems to be working fine right now. I don't think you've missed anything. Completely refresh the page(s) in your browser (CTRL+F5) in case you are viewing "cached" pages. Also, completely empty your internet cache, and repeat that procedure.

Now.... are you interested at all in getting your MIDI background music to be able to be heard in other browsers besides MSIE browser? If not, I will not post the "fix" for you. If so, let me know and I'll post the proper coding for you to replace the MSIE-specific coding you now use.

April 11th, 2004, 7:12 pm

All the links seem to be working except the home buttons on the top of each page (the home link on the bottom of the pages work fine).

I am interested in the music "fix" - thanks very much for all your help.

April 11th, 2004, 7:16 pm

I removed the link on the fun & links page and reset it and it now works - so it looks like I'll need to change it on all the pages.


Thanks again for all your help.

[ATNO/TW]

April 11th, 2004, 7:19 pm

Nunzio390 wrote:

LOL!!! Looks like somebody just merged 2 threads into one. My previous 2 responses were in direct response to the one and only post in this thread at that time... the initial post by natrul.

Yeah -- sorry, if it was confusing. We prefer not to have crossposts here -- it just gets overly confusing as you saw. Anyway -- it looks as though you've nicely provided the solution. Thanks for the help here.

April 11th, 2004, 7:25 pm

Ahhh, ATNO...

Quote:

We prefer not to have crossposts here -- it just gets overly confusing as you saw. Anyway -- it looks as though you've nicely provided the solution. Thanks for the help here

LOL. Yeah. I know that. I often merge threads at the Winamp forums.
And thanks!

natrul wrote:

All the links seem to be working except the home buttons on the top of each page (the home link on the bottom of the pages work fine).

I am interested in the music "fix" - thanks very much for all your help.

That is because you've missed those links (for the home button), and still have the home button targeting the "top"....

Example:

This....
<a target="_top" title="Home" href="index.htm">
<img border="0" src="images/home.gif" width="53" height="55" style="position: absolute; left: 7; top: 9"></a>

Must be changed to this...
<a title="Home" href="index.htm">
<img border="0" src="images/home.gif" width="53" height="55" style="position: absolute; left: 7; top: 9"></a>

Go ahead and remove target="_top" from ALL links at your site, as I indicated earlier.

I have to leave for awhile now. My niece just arrived. I'll post back later with the proper MIDI embedding code that you can use that will work with all browsers.