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What do you use most to code?

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What do you use most to code?

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Post February 12th, 2004, 9:06 pm

You guys will rip on me big time, i'm not exactly what you would call a skilled coder, not that i cant do it, but read my name :P, depending on what is in the page such as a flash objeect I use either MS Word, which is decent for most things except it can't handle a flash object, it will actually remove it from the page. So with that problem I'll use Open Office's HTML editor, but I do not pefer it, it's error free, but if you're used to MS's junk then it's hard to get used to. Naturally if i need to add script, like a counter or something I'll pull out notepad.

Ever notice if you open some php files in notepad it doesn't show up correctly? Using wordpad is usually the solution to that.
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Post February 12th, 2004, 9:06 pm

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Post February 12th, 2004, 9:08 pm

You use ms word?!!?


Whoa boy...I'm gonna stay out of this one.....*grumbles about excessive code that does nothing*
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Post February 12th, 2004, 9:17 pm

oh yeah all that junk at the top of the file, it is pointless, it's IE optimized :? like over half the file is filled with that junk...
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Post February 12th, 2004, 10:05 pm

It's not just the stuff in the header, Word puts in positioning tags for about every letter of content, heh. So basically what would normally be a 2 or 3K page ends up being about 30-40K per page, heh.
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Post February 12th, 2004, 10:49 pm

I'm a big fan of dreamweaver. Mainly because of it's upload/download and file management abilities, but the new mx2004 has excellent css support.

When it comes to php, there's no need for WYSIWYG, but as far as design is concerned, when I'm brainstorming a layout I do it in the wysiwyg and then after I have my idea I CSS it to death. Straight hand-coding until the page loads lightning quick and all the garbage tags have been removed.

The line numbering also comes in handy when error-checking. "Syntax error on line 46" doesn't exactly help much if you can't see the numbers (eg Notepad).

Dreamweaver forever. Might have to try the Zend tools one of these days, but last trial version didn't help me one bit. Any php developers using the zend soft?
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Post February 14th, 2004, 8:18 am

Axe wrote:
It's not just the stuff in the header, Word puts in positioning tags for about every letter of content, heh. So basically what would normally be a 2 or 3K page ends up being about 30-40K per page, heh.


no kidding. I dont MS Word for anything, not just the fact it's crummy with webpages but it often crashes and hangs. Also doesn't allow simple html stuff, like table background images...
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Post February 14th, 2004, 6:14 pm

Just saw a link to Nvu WYSIWIG editor at another tech board I frequent. Looks promising and it's open source, and here's the kicker - it's design for Linux desktop. Haven't tried it yet, but like I said, looks promising.

http://www.nvu.com/
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Post February 15th, 2004, 12:20 am

Other. I started with vi and emacs in '93, then moved on to Notepad, and then to Nick Bradbury's HomeSite. Then Allaire bought it, and it got kinda chubby. Then Macromedia bought it, and it got downright obese. However, I continued to use it, until Nick came through again, with TopStyle.

The only pseudo-wysiwyg editor I've tried is Dreamweaver. I've attempted to work with every version that's been released, and I keep going back to a text editor. Wait, no, I tried NetObjects Fusion once, and I'm not sure I've ever been that flummoxed by an application.

Anyway, I absolutely love TopStyle. What started out as a CSS editor is now a full-fledged CSS/XHTML editor. Bobby, HTML Tidy, syntax highlighting, collapsible rules, clip library (code snippets - very handy), tag inspector, the works. It's sleek, and very customizable. Pro version ain't cheap, but it's worth every penny. The Lite version's free, and nice to get your toes wet. Plays well with other apps (integrates into HomeSite, Dreamweaver, and others). Best of all, the whole thing's under 4mb. Not as svelte as some other editors, but still very sexy.
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Post February 15th, 2004, 5:56 am

Axe wrote:
I'm a big fan of EditPlus (http://www.editplus.com) due to its syntax highlighting support (you can download custom file formats for syntax highlighting if the application doesn't natively support it), and its built-in FTP client. This allows me remote editing of files directly rather than having to transfer them to my PC, edit, upload, reload the page to test, edit, upload, reload to test, edit, upload, reload to test, etc..

Now, it's just...

Edit, CTRL+S, ALT+Tab, F5 :D


yup editplus for me too :D

on BSD its gotta be vi and quanta though !

Quanta has everything editplus does except it speaks fish and has a GUI that lets you collapse functions in the edit window m which
is pretty awesome. It gets a 10 in my book.
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Post February 16th, 2004, 12:18 pm

I'll have to check out EditPlus too.

I currently use CoffeeCup ($49 for life--free upgrades) and the only knock that I have it that it sometimes runs out of juice if you're working for long hours switching between the html and the preview screen a lot.

Same as other products already mentioned: color syntax, ftp upload built in. It's got a Preview mode, and a Quickview mode (see the screens as you type the HTML which is kinda cool - and it supports javascript, css and dhtml) Lotsa snippets, wizards, application launch setups, and other minor stuff.

But....I use it plain vanilla.....a color-syntaxed notepad with shortcut keys, use the ftp upload, and quick launch other apps from it. That's about it.

For the php/perl side of (Linux) things, my soon-to-be-arthritic hands only use VI. I guess it all comes down to: use what you know and what you're comfortable with!
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Post March 11th, 2004, 9:44 am

List ur Favorites Web design tools(software)?
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Post March 11th, 2004, 9:45 am

Photoshop and Dreamweaver, only tools I use...
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Post March 11th, 2004, 10:12 am

I used to only use a combination of notepad and self written browser based utilities untill I read so many good things about HTML-Kit here on Ozzu. I'll rate HTML-Kit like this, I have access to dreamweaverMX for free and still don't want it.
Strong with this one, the sudo is.
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Post March 11th, 2004, 11:23 am

Photoshop & EditPlus :)
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Post March 11th, 2004, 11:43 am

Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro for graphics.
1stPage 2000 for html and Netscape composter for quick tables.
TopStyle for style sheets.
Html-Kit is nice, but I prefer 1stPage.
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