SITE REVIEW: Nucleo's -Domain (V4 now)

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Hi all
here i go again, and yes, another darn design. hehe :D

well, this time i think i can successfully say i have hit the nail on the head.
my past designs have had no meaning, just something to make.
well now i have a goal for my site, to host my porfolio of work and sell templates :lol:

i posted my first ever site on here for review
( http://www.mohaa.fubar.no-frills.net blimy, its still online!!! :shock: )

well, i have progressed in the area of graphics and html, so here is my latest site
http://www.inucleo.co.uk
the forum and portfolio work (sales dept. still under construction)
i would just like to see what you fine people think of my site.

(may sound pretty petty) but i had to config the soutbox to fit the site...making that work gave me a warm fuzzy feeling inside :lol:
i know,... i am pretty new at making a good site for a change lol

*\ please note, the site is not completely finished, i still need to do 2 more pages (add your link and Graphics)
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Eeeep! So pretty! Graphics-intensive, but THANK YOU for the warning!

Please watch your spelling, looks a bit unprofessional. (Weather = whether.)

You might also want to put your prices in American dollars. Just a thought.

ACK! Where, oh where is your DOCTYPE declaration hiding?
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http% ... Fnews.html

Please use stylesheets, not font tags and body bgcolor tags. PLEASE. It works much better that way. So much more efficient.

If you need help with anything I mentioned above, I will be more than glad to do so :)

Nice job!
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ACK! Where, oh where is your DOCTYPE declaration hiding?
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http% ... Fnews.html


i am reasonably new at html, and i used dreamweaver for just about everything...
so what do ya mean?

(thanks for the thorough examination!)
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Nucleo wrote:
…i am reasonably new at html, and i used dreamweaver for just about everything...


Well Nucleo, I have only good things to say to you
The graphic portion is very nice (original)
The color mix is beautiful.
The visibility of the letters are great.
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Watch out Nucleo!

Template and Exclusive Rites < rights
Concerntrating < Concentrating
purpost < purpose

Just check your spelling, some people might doubt your capacity on that only.
So my final word based on how new you are to this will be 9.5/10 ;)
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LOL, i skimmed thought and clicked on the first link, the one with a picture of medal of honour that looks like its been streched to big lol.

The second link is class though. i love the first page, (i remember when you did that as a desk top wallpaper!)

I love the color schemes, and the clean layout of the site.

I like the forum however it does not look like the rest of your site. But then i spose that no big deal.

Great site will come back to see the updated content! :D
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A DOCTYPE declaration tells the browser what kind of programming language you used to write the document so it can present it in the manner according to standards. So, right at the very top, before the head tag, add this:

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
  "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
  1. <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
  2.   "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">


Just copy and paste, as is. I'm surprised Dreamweaver didn't put it there. Sometimes the older versions do that. Please add the DOCTYPE and then run it through the validator to make sure your HTML is correct. http://validator.w3.org You can upload the file, enter a URL or paste it into a textarea.

It'll tell you if you have errors, and if you're confused about how to fix them, PM me or reply to this thread.

Also: do you know how to use CSS?
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conorific wrote:
A DOCTYPE declaration tells the browser what kind of programming language you used to write the document so it can present it in the manner according to standards…

Personally I tried to validate my page and I don’t pass the 4.01…LOL
But the thing is that even if I don’t have the DOCTYPE my pages shows up perfectly on all browsers (all), maybe it’s because I use .css, who knows?

So my question conorific, is it an obligation to put that DOCTYPE even if I have no problem and i don't qualify for the 4.01?
Thx in advance
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If you want to sell your services, you need to conform to standards! It doesn't matter whether it looks okay without it or not, you need to have it because it's standard. And if your page doesn't validate, it can cause problems!

If you need help understanding the validation, I'll help you. But not really caring about the standards makes you a bad designer because you'll have sloppy code that is NOT universal. Standards are there for a reason!
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conorific wrote:
…you need to conform to standards! It doesn't matter whether it looks okay without it or not, you need to have it because it's standard. And if your page doesn't validate, it can cause problems!


I guess your right! It did bug me that I did not have that DOCTYPE, but I didn’t know it was so important, I guess I need to go back and rebuild my sloppy coding and pass that validation ;)
Thx for the advice
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Okay, I see why it doesn't validate. This should be your head section:

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

<html>
<head>
<title>TITLE HERE</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css">
<link rel="stylesheet" href="FILENAME.CSS" type="text/css">
OTHER HEADER CRAP HERE
</head>
  1. <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
  2. "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
  3. <html>
  4. <head>
  5. <title>TITLE HERE</title>
  6. <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
  7. <meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css">
  8. <link rel="stylesheet" href="FILENAME.CSS" type="text/css">
  9. OTHER HEADER CRAP HERE
  10. </head>


Sorry. Add that to your files and then validate it.

I'll be more than willing to help you with this and with CSS, too.
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Pretty colors, what an amazing site, the graphics are great as well.
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conorific wrote:
If you want to sell your services, you need to conform to standards! It doesn't matter whether it looks okay without it or not, you need to have it because it's standard. And if your page doesn't validate, it can cause problems!


I have a few issues with that statement. According to the traffic stats I get from my sites, at least 95% of my visitors are using IE. Why would I validate any site according to an arbitrary and stringent standard when it displays well in the browser that is most used worlwide? I design for IE and Netscape only; beyond that, I don't worry.

Have you had a good look at http://validator.w3.org ? Butt ugly! Even my income tax form looks friendlier! And we're supposed to follow their example? Even their own Web site doesn't validate for XHTML 4; and their last update is from 2001. I'm not about to bring my designs 20 years back because of a geeky standard!

Most web sites do NOT validate, not even yours conorific: as of this post you're missing an ALT tag - ooooh big DEAL! Your site looks good to me even with this damn ALT tag omission :?

I've sold quite a few sites that did not validate, not one client ever had negative feedback about display problems.

Dreamweaver certainly doesn't worry about doctypes! Google doesn't! Yahoo doesn't! Disney.go.com (one of the most visited sites ever) doesn't! If you think http://www.ozzu.com/ does care about doctypes, try again! And guess what? Microsoft.com doesn't worry about doctypes either!!! Those Web giants didn't feel it was necessary to bother.

What does that tell ya? Drop the myth! "If it ain't broke, why fix it?" Nucleo's site looks awesome, period!
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still kinda confused..
but i will sort all of that out...
i am back off my trip and i am glad and pleased about all of your comments.

my host have just said that they are migrating all accounts to a new server, so i have just got to wait :(
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Nucleo, I can't see your page! It just says action cancelled? I don't know if you have taken it offline for a bit or what. I'll post a proper review when I can have a look, and I wanna see some more of your graphics! :D

For now, I'll just say that I agree with most of whats been said so far. It really is amazing how much emphasis people put on spelling when they read through something. The worst thing is, its so much harder to see your own mistakes than it is to see others! :) I can always see when some else has but not my own.

Also, it is worth the time to look at the standards and learn to hand code, simply because you have so much more control over the finished product.

As I said - a better review when I can see the site

Now thats done, lets try some stuff:

*opens dreamweaver, clicks new html document, gets:

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>

<body>
</body>
</html>
  1. <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
  2. "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
  3. <html>
  4. <head>
  5. <title>Untitled Document</title>
  6. <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
  7. </head>
  8. <body>
  9. </body>
  10. </html>

dreamweaver does include a docytpe. :shock:

*clicks 'view source' on the current ozzu page:
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html dir="ltr">
  1. <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
  2. <html dir="ltr">

Ozzu has a doctype :shock:

*validates the w3c validation page:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.w3.org%2F
w3c does validate for xhtml 1.0 :shock:

My point? If you want to flame someone, please get your facts right first, don't make up "facts" to make yourself look right. Plus comments like "ooooh big DEAL!" make you look about 5!!

The w3c standards have nothing to do with aesthetic, just because their site is unattractive does not mean that they are not right about standards.

Anyhoo, sorry bout that everyone, I'm calm again now :)
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my site is now back online
my host had something called DOCC (or DOC ?) attacks, and they had to move everything to a new server..

well i am back now.

i will sort out all that you have said, wont take too long.

and sorry about the spelling.
i had a site before that one, so this which you see now was originally a rushed demo which i put in place.
i will fix everything.

I know why the decleration was missing, i had a meta tag generator online, i copied and pasted the code, overwriting the whole top part lol
and thanks for the gr8 reviews and in depth explanations

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This...is...AWESOME! You're layout shows that you have great skills in web designing and making graphics. And I'm sure that it will attract a few businesses.
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thanks...
i have successfully killed my forum, so i am going to create a brand new one, i might even switch to invision or vbulletin...

not sure yet

its not a bad thing, as the forums needed a makeover anyway
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haha I was about to ask about the forum lol!

Ok, my first thought is that I hate you for being good at graphics :x , I really love the shapes and abstract designs you use, and I also like the fact that you have the astounding graphics at the top, then a nice, uncluttered design for the body. :)


Aesthetics.
The main thing I didn't like was the silver/blue bar under the title graphic on the main page. I don't know what I don't like about it - maybe I feel it's a little out of place, or if it just reminds me of windows xp :evil: (me and xp are not friends)! Personally, I would swap that for an inverted version of the one at the top. But its not a big deal really.

Also, is it possible to extend the shoutbox down the page, it seems a bit weird to have it take up only half the page, and then put a scroll bar in it.


Navigation.
Everything is nice and clear and where you expect it to be.

I'm wondering if the mouseover effects take a moment to load if user is on dialup? That bugs me when the mouseover doesn't work to begin with. I'm on dsl so I don't know if that happens here. Again not a big deal.

The graphics page doesn't work! Either put in a blank page saying "coming soon" or take out the link until you have something to put there. It's better to have a blank page than a broken link. The same with the "your link here" page.

The wallpapers are great and i've just added nuke blue to my desktop :)


General:
Other than that I agree with what people say about spelling and coding standards.

Bear in mind that the site does display properly at the moment without using standards, so maybe incorporate this into v5? or when you add more pages to this site.

Spellcheck is your friend :D if dreamweaver or whatever has a spellcheck, use it; if not, copy paste the whole page into word and spellcheck using that.


As a note, the price lists need a more explicit disclaimer. Something like "All prices are for indication only and subject to acceptance" or something. UK advertising laws basically say that if you advertise something for a price, then you cannot charge more. I know you have got something there, but just be careful in case someone tries to screw you totally over the £100 website design.


Sorry if this seems very critical (and a bit long! :oops:), I'm really picking at little tiny things here. I would say 8 or 9 out of 10 8) Nice one and keep up the good work.
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well...
i must say, thaks the for the great review
and im glad you like the gfx

you are right...
i need to sort out the gfx page, and the spelling...
i will do ;)

just configuring a new forum at the moment. then sorting all my graphics out.

(also helping a gfx team make a site) so it should be done hopefully, sometime today
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ok...
i have fixed up the forum..
added a new theme...
doesn't fit the site
but it is cool calm and collected
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ok!
I have sorted out that doctype thing lol

and i have finished off the graphics page...

it is all just abous working...
i have also altered alot of the spelling lol

so please...
more reviews and ways to improve it

:lol:
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Your site looks pretty sweet dude. I thought I knew HTML well untill I say yours.
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where is the drool smily? :eek2: wow.. i guess your lucky they dont have one.. i would abuse the cow out of it.. :-p very very nice design and layout, colors are wonderful... as for your first site.. took a look at that.. its better then my first site :) and my second.. but i dont believe my third :-p.. i use to have them all somewhere..
anyways... 9/10 for design and layout :) nice job... ohh ya..
*note to mods... can ya add a drewl smiliy? :-p*
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thanks alot :D
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ok
i have just added a LOT! of renders to the graphics section lol

just saying ;)
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The site and your graphics are outstanding!!! I haven't had a chance to go completely through it yet, but I'm going to send the link to the house and bookmark it.

I need to take some lessons on how to change the look of a Forum. Last time I messed with ours I crashed it! :(
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thanks dude!
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Its all sooooooo pretty :)

but (yes I'm back to nit-picking (sp?-is that even the right phase??) again. Thumbnails nucleo - low res thumbnails. seriously dude a lot more people will look through them if there are thumbnails (even though it actually takes longer for them to do it). Some people may not even click on the link because it says high res.

Talking of high res, how long does that splash screen take to load on dialup?? It might be worth trying to get the buttons to appear before the large picture, so people can skip that if they really want (or maybe just add some text links at the bottom)

Keep up the good work!
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right...

i am going to sort out the splash page lol...
i will lower the res and make it smaller...

but right now...

i need sleep lol
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Nucleo

I don't get into the reviews area much anymore, but I wanted to take the time to compliment you on your outstanding graphics. What you do with Bryce is most excellent! I snooped around your site a bit this afternoon at work. You have a style that I have some interest in. My company is interested in a new logo design and your style is appropriate, and I just don't have the graphic skills to come up with something near your quality. When you have a moment send me a PM and I'll give you some contact info so we can talk a bit.
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