SITE REVIEW: www.polabear.tk

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hi i am new to web building
this site is for the biusness that i'm starting

http://www.polabear.tk

please be as honest as possible i would like to know what i should change etc all comments of all kinds are welcome
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Where you sober when you designed that site? Or you got bitten by a funnel web spider? :wink:

Look I’m not saying that when my time comes to get reviewed I will get 10 out of 10,
but for you site in this moment I have to give you only 1/10,
the 1 point is for the effort and the guts to get reviewed,
you need allot of work mate, most letters are very hard to read,
the colors are…well maybe its personal but I don’t like the mix,
the scrolling thing there…blah! I really don’t know what’s the use?
But eh! If you like it it’s your business.
Keep up the work who knows? :)
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Your site needs a lot of work done to it. You should have a look at other website design sites. If you are looking to get customers then your site needs to be top notch. If i was looking for someone to design a site for me and then happened to come accross your site i would run a mile.

Your site should reflect what your company is capable of.

The font is not very clear on that background and you hqve also used quite a boring font.

The copy-right does not fit into to side part.

I dont like the mouse tracker, It just annoys me and does not look very professional.

Overall i would also have to rate your site 1/10

It can however be improved so dont let this negative comment put you off. You will get better as time goes by so keep trying and learning.

Try introducing graphics, better colours. have you got any image software like paintshop pro or photoshop? if not then it might be worth purchasing something along them lines.
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Your site should reflect what your company is capable of.

Not trying to be a meanie, but I think this site does reflect what his company is capable of.

Learn html, css, and get a better grasp on design. Take some time before you get into the business of doing websites. I don't think you're ready just yet.

I mean really--what can you bring to the table? What makes you better than the average designer? First, work on your own site. Then you'll be ready for others. Give it a year or so. At least you've got your own web address to work with.
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Errmm...there's not an awful lot to review is there? I'm afraid to say that I agree with everyone else and would also add that you have LOTS of spelling mistakes which looks very unprofessional. Keep working though!

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(I have to just interject here and point out that jubilaki is a nice 14yo kid from Oz... you know youthful enthusiasm and all that, so please be specific in your critique of his website and not demeaning, were not here to shoot up peoples self esteem, were here to suggest how people can make their sites better).
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Well said Rose.

jubilaki, your thinking too far ahead. You seem to understand the basics of advertising (I liked the left handed polarbear catch phrase), yet you obviously lack in design experience. Most of the people that own web design companys have been doing this for MANY years.

My advice, focus on learning standard coding practices, I noticed META name="generator" content="Notepad" in your pages source so it seems you know a little about tweeking the source of a page :wink:
OZZU is full of threads with very helpfull links to sites that I suggest you READ NOT SKIM THROUGH. Any time you have questions OZZU is also full of thoose people that have been doing this for many years that I told you about earlier. (As i'm sure you've figured out allready)

Getting to the review,
Overall i'm going to have to give this site a 2/10
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WTF are you talking about musik?
no one here treated him as a stupid or anything else for that matter, we all gave our opinion like he asked,
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please be as honest as possible i would like to know what i should change etc all comments of all kinds are welcome


We all gave him a “ continue or keep up the work” statement at the end of our review, so you can see theirs a great sense of solidarity in all the posts, I personally think that you, you are the one out of topic here,
why don’t you give a review to him instead of saying none sense things. WTF do you know how we feel about it eh!
THE END FOR ME WITH YOU.
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It was a general comment and related to nobody in particular, if you feel that it was directed at you then maybe you need to have a think about why you perceive it that way.

I also think you need to check your manners and watch your attitude.
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Though I have a lot of respect for all of you moderators, I think cool#9 and all others who disagree with your post are right on the money. We're not out to lower this kid's self esteem but to give him a push in the right direction.

If he doesn't take the time to work on his own site he'll never be ready to help someone else, and he might find himself in a big, bad dilemma if somebody DOES take his site seriously and then tells him they need--for instance--an e-commerce website to sell thousands of products with a database backend and an admin section to enable the buyer to update products himself.

If you're a novice, then web development can be a challenge, but if you're a beginner then you shouldn't be getting into web design as a business. Not yet at least.

I agree that cool#9 should check his manners at the door but I do agree with his sentiment that you were off-topic. But this is the web. It's easy to misinterpret what others mean, so we might both be wrong.

Either way, good luck with polabear jubilaki. 14 is a good age to get into web design. When you're 21, you'll probably be forcing somebody my age out of a job! :)
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I respect your honesty gsv2com. Like I already said it was not aimed at anyone in particular however I felt that I should clarify jubilaki's status should anybody judge his efforts too harshly (seeing as he said it was his web design business website).

Maybe its the over protective youth worker in me, I didn't post it to step on anybodys toes :)


Cheers,
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thanks for all the sugestions i know that i'm not very good at the moment
i am only 14 and that is like the second site that i have built
i posted the site here so that hopefully i could get some ideas and help from all you guys that have been doing this for years
i'm just learning to use flash and so i'll put some of that up soon
thx muskit for ya support

thx all for all your comments
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No! No flash! Master html first! Otherwise you'll just end up with flash knowledge and little idea of how the web works. Master html and css, then learn flash. Flash by itself has very little value and too many beginners get into such terrible habits by using flash for everything. Use it for banners, cool effects, and whatnot, but leave the presentation to html and css unless you're looking to be like http://www.joecartoon.com someday.

This is, of course, just my biased opinion. Flash sucks! :)
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ok then i've got html under control but i haven't even looked at css i started with php what should learn first php or css
and if css where is a good tutorial
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lol in class me teacher is trying to get me to use flash but he dosnt know how do use it himself
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musik wrote:
Maybe its the over protective youth worker in me, I didn't post it to step on anybodys toes


Well I’m sorry for being rude musik, I got mad because i personally know that i was saying only good stuff to the guy, and so the other’s, your words, even if spoken in general, i think it was not reflecting my opinion, and as you can see for other’s too in this thread.
Well maybe now that we know each other a tiny bit more, and you can see that we all have good intention,
I’m ready to bury the hatchet,
so again I’m sorry MUSIK, I’m sorry, sorry, sorry! :oops:



jubilaki wrote:

lol in class me teacher is trying to get me to use flash but he doesn’t know how do use it himself


After almost 3 months of trying I gave up on Flash (for now), it is a bit hard because you need to know the coding first,
It seems easy when you see it in a well prepared page, but boy it’s hard, so I am doing first normal pages, but if you want a business I do recommend the same as gsv2com said, first html and after flash.
Good luck mate!!! :wink:
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Learn CSS first. It'll only take a few days of study to get a pretty firm grasp. PHP is more complex. It is a programming language after all. CSS is just for style. It'll make your html coding and web maintanence a lot easier.

Get "Eric Meyer on CSS" at any large bookstore with a computer section or order it from Amazon. Do a search on Google for CSS tutorials and you should be able to learn a bit.

Ask us questions if you need help. I love CSS. I'll be happy to help anytime.
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I understand what you're saying about learning flash for three months cool#9. I did the same. I got a ball to bounce, but that's about it. *sarcasm*

Can I call you Ice-9? Much cooler name and easier to type. :) If you're not sure what Ice-9 is, it's the chemical that brought about the end of the world in Kurt Vonnegut's book Cat's Cradle.
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Ice-9, cool#9, is all Joe Satriani’s song titles, it’s my favorite instrumentalist, I never expected that Ice-9 was other than is song title, well good to know other stuff, now I’m going to ask Joe if he got the idea from Kurt Vonnegut's, wonder???

For the Flash thing, well you got the ball to bounce, me I just got a circle to “tween” from one end to another. ;)

I went on your site and let me tell you it sure does groove, nice! To bad am not going to Japan soon, I wish!!!
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Cool#9 wrote:
I went on your site and let me tell you it sure does groove, nice! To bad am not going to Japan soon, I wish!!!

Japan's party scene is lacking, but I'd say the coolest thing about Okinawa's party scene is the GrooveSeeker website. As far as the actual party/club scene is concerned out here: it's lacking. Okinawans are far too laid back.
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One question jubilaki, Why are you storing visitors IP addresses in a cookie named IP ?
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Like IT!!
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Cool#9 wrote:
Well I’m sorry for being rude musik, I got mad because i personally know that i was saying only good stuff to the guy, and so the other’s, your words, even if spoken in general, i think it was not reflecting my opinion, and as you can see for other’s too in this thread.
Well maybe now that we know each other a tiny bit more, and you can see that we all have good intention,
I’m ready to bury the hatchet,
so again I’m sorry MUSIK, I’m sorry, sorry, sorry! :oops:



Cheers Cool, the hatchet is buried and gone :D

:thumbsup: (thank you)
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joebert where and how am i doing this i have no idea how or where i'm storing the ip's
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i just looked at your site and you want to have a Web Design biusness did you look at your site? you would think if you owned a Web Design biusness you would have at leat a good website. i was not that bad when i frist started. i am sorry but 2 thumbs down

now to help you out a bit. get rid of the background and the scrolling, make it more center, add to it, make the table border="0" becouse that looks real bad get more clour on you site but dont make it to flashy. i hope you take some of my ideas.
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While I was weeding through exported cookies I noticed one named IP with nothing but an ip address from http://www.andy.vzz I almost always watch my status bar while surfing and remembered this address from your site. I did a quick check and yep I wasn't mistaken, it came from your site as it is the only one I visited with http://www.andy.vzz in the address.
why it's there I dont know but im guessing it has somthing to do with this,
Code: [ Select ]
<script language='jscript.encode' src='/root/%61%64%73.php'></script>
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not shur i'll have to have a look
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Keep working on it... you've got some of the basics down and I'm sure you'll be a great designer. Heck... you're 14, and your 1st site looks better than mine did... (and I was 22) lol

A little helpful suggestion: try to make sure that the colors on your pages are pleasing to the eye, and that there is enough contrast between the text and the background color. Try to stay away from using Contradictory color combinations. Think of the color wheel (Red-Blue-Yellow) If the two colors are across from eachother... it's bound to give an unpleasing effect... (Red - Green, Blue - Orange, Yellow - Purple). In addition to that.. make sure that the color combinations are too closely related.. (Dark Blue - Dark Purple.... etc)

It takes practice, and contstructive critisizm helps, so don't be affraid to post your work for review. Keep with it, and by the time you're my age, you'll be bringin' in the big bucks!

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thx
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i have changed some stuf and i have put css into it can someone tell me if it is any better than before please
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What have you actually got in your stylesheet? It still seems like you've got unnecessary font tags on your website. You should put all that in your css file.
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Hey!

As everyone has said, you have a grasp of coding but little design knowledge. I sympathize - I suck at designing and making things look good.

Aesthetic is very important to your site - people just won't stay if colors clash or the fonts are hard to read. Remember that people have to have a positive first impression.

In terms of design, the best thing you can do is look at other people's work. Look around the net, take screenshots of sites that you like and sites that you don't. Analyse them. I suck at designing and I think that I have learned a lot for just looking around. Just DON'T rip other people off.

You might also want to find a colour wheel, and some info on how to use it (http://images.google.com/images?q=color+wheel&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)
The colour wheel is a handy reference for picking colours that compliment each other and go well.

Finally PERSEVERE. Hold back on the business for a while, just learn as a hobby and then when you are more experienced go for it.

Good luck.
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thx
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Hi,

Is this your first site?

If you plan to offer your services as a web designer you may need some more practice.

To start your site looks like a child made (please don't take offence), you need to learn to incorporate high quality images, and layout with in your designs.

Regards

Rich :shock:
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Lets just say there is no point of putting this
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Pola Bear Web Design copyright 2004 ©


Trust me lol, no one is going to steal anything from your site...

And I suggest before you start a design site, buy a book or two, take a class, learn the different languages of websites, and build a few sites just to practice and incorperate some custom graphics you make from like PS7
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i am working with him a little bit to help his design get a little better
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Yeaaaaah. Cowkiller. Do you think you could try to tyoe a bit better? I barely understood your last post to this thread. Please?
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ok ready
i am going to help him (jubilaki) with the design of his site so it can be a little better on the design side of it

do you get it? if not read it a little slower
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I get it, but I was pointing out that the rest of us generally read English here.
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my opinion

1st: make it look better and you ccant see some of the pics.
2nd: if youre starting a bisnes get a .com etc domain name.
3rd: get a paid host (i can give. pm me)

sorry for the negativ comments but sometimes you need to know the truth.
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so i have made it like brand new have a look and tell me what you think now
thx
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Ok, I'll give you some advice...

1. Images - never, Never, NEVER use JPEG for gfx elements, JPEG is ONLY for Photos. Use either GIF of preferrably PNG.

2. Lines are very important in any design. I'm not talking about visible lines, but that for exampla the body text and menu should line up with each other etc...

3. The way you have designed it now, it looks very empty. Too much blue, empty space...


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What you should do:

1. Read up on HTML. Get a good grasp of the basics of HTML and start at once reading up on DIV's and Layers. Do not start used nested tables, as thet is an obsolite technique that it is very hard to stop using if you start. Believe me, I know. Ive been using nested tables for 8 years, and have big problems adjusting to DIV's instead.

2. CSS - As soon as you get it, it will make it ten times faster and easier to design, and later alter the look of your sites.
CSS and DIV's/Layers is the perfect marriage.

3. PHP - Them when you have a good grasp of the previous two, start looking into PHP. PHP will give you the opportunity to develop complex internet-systems for community management, e-commerce etc etc... The sky and your imagination is basically the limit.

4. MySQL - MySQL is the most commonly used database on the internet, and is also the easiest to use with PHP. In order to use PHP to it's full extent, you will need this.

5. Flash - NOW, when you have learned all the four things above, you should start thinking about Flash. Not before. Flash is a visual aid, not something to base designs upon.

6. ActionScripting - Provided you already have an understanding of PHP, ActionScripting (AS) will be quite easy to learn. AS gives you the possibility to expand the limit of interactivity and functionality in a flash based website.


So... Now you have got some homework boy.. get on it! :)
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jubilaki wrote:
so i have made it like brand new have a look and tell me what you think now
thx

no offense, but before you try to sell websites, learn how to make them. Cause I don't think anyone would even bother to buy a site from you. If your site looks like crap, then they will think thats how all yours will be
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thx heaps Zpoon i hace a grasp on html and know css pritty good as well i have looked into php a bit and need to do more i just don't know where i can get a dater base from (help)

i am not planing on haveing people paying me to build sites yet i have just built this and am expanding my knowledge i am only 15 so i still have a lot to work on it

thx heaps Zpoon your coments are greatly apreshiated
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do you have microsoft access?

i recommend getting your feet wet practicing in access' since it's very visual before you move onto mysql or postgresql.
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na i dont have it
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then dink on somebody's computer who does have it.

you're going to need something easy to start out on. it's like training wheels on a bicycle. Either that or you can learn to swim the other way: jump in the deep end. Good luck whichever way happens.
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OMG that page owns nothing too special, no fancy graphics, and a ton of pop ups! :D Get a book on HTML and Flash and in no time you'll have that page up and running full speed! As a personal rating of the site is a 10/10 :P
Adios
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1. Images - never, Never, NEVER use JPEG for gfx elements, JPEG is ONLY for Photos. Use either GIF of preferrably PNG.

i wouldn't say that...

I use
.gif's for area's with block colour
.jpg for any complex images (like backgrounds, and my site)
.png....well for nothing...the file size is far too big
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I second nucleo. I have yet to find a need to use png over gif.
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ok this might sound really dumb but what is mysql and postgresql.


i thought that mysql was a data base ???
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They are two types of databases.

PostgreSQL is big in Japan. mySQL is popular everywhere else. *sarcasm*

In terms of getting the job done, they'll both work out fine. Learn whichever one you want. I personally prefer mySQL.
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ok where can i learn mySQL ???
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Do a search on yahoo/google or just go to http://www.mysql.com. Come on! It's not that hard to find your own answers!

Anyway, you're going to need to learn SQL, not mySQL. SQL (Structured Query Language) is the language you interact with the database with. mySQL is just a type of database. Both postgresql and mysql use sql. Notice the SQL part of both of their spellings?
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yea ok i'll go and have a look at that now
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jukilaki, man i feel for you. so much advice and everyone seems to be an expert ;-) everyone is telling you what to do based on their own thoughts of what you should do.

what is it you really want to do? build websites?
this is a very broad area so you should try start with one particular area, which ever area you should always start with html and css, then if you wanna go more techy you can get into javascript, php, coldfusion, databasing etc etc all the stuff that requires coding. otherwise if your more interested in the design side of it you should still learn html and css but also learn the fundamentals of design. this is more focusing on the fontend (interface). you cant cover all aspects of building websites straight up, pick an area you enjoy doing then branch out from there.

there is alot to learn so just start small and dont bite off more than you can chew ;-)

regarding the site, it looks good for someone with your experience, keep it up you obviously have some good ideas for ythe future.

you are young and you have plenty of time, business can get really ugly if you dont do it right. like you said just do freebies and stuff for people you know and friends - always good experience.

anyways hope that helps ;-)
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thx heaps for that advise
i want to get into codeing more than the design i have a good grasp on html and css i have looked into php a bit and i want to learn SQL so that i can make data bases and stuf

the thing i really want to be able to do is acturly have my own forums running

i'm going to get some phpb forums but everturly create my own script for the forums

Is there anywere that i would be able to download a program that would help me with databases ???
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If you want to work with mySQL, there's a program called SQLyog that works quite well. Do a search on yahoo on where to find it, but I think it might be http://www.sqlyog.com . They have a 30 day trial period before you actually have to buy the software.

Many web hosts have something installed called phpmyadmin which allows you to do just about anything with a mySQL database. This is extremely useful and is a good thing to know. Ask your web host to install it if they don't have it up in your control panel yet. If you don't have access to a database on your web host, you might want to switch to a different company.

We're all here to help you, so let us know if you need help anytime.
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ok i'll hav a look at those things i havent got paid hosting yet cuz i havent got a paid domain , dose anyone know where i can get cheap domail names prefeably .com.au or plain .com
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Hi,

Well, everything was said here...

Some tips... Don't use scroll text on you site... It removes all the personality of the work, because it is something that everybody can do. Try to be original. Before doing the site, make a sketch in paper and use your creativity to create something different. It doesn't have to be complex. With a black brackground and white letters you can made something original. Place images in grizzly tonalities, melting them with the black of the background and use small letters. Try the font Verdana with the size 2. In the Polar Bear logo use images in the composition. Give more life to you work.

Regards.
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I am concerned with the security program exe that show up name dealprograms? I also would have to say that the layout is a bit dark. Thats all for now...
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it would be because i have free web hosting/domain
i will have paid domain soon
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The scrolling text is distracting up top. The "E-mail us (on the address below)" is kind of weird. I wouldn't go into a rant about how much work you would have to do per page. Perhaps saying something to the effect of 'every client is different, and we can't set a per page price' I'd also use emails from the domain name, not your hotmail accounts.
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This is a pretty good website where you can learn stuff, IMHO.



http://www.w3schools.com/
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BenEbberly wtf are you on about ????
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Flash?! Flash?! Do not try doing flash until you get the basics of HTML down! What is up with the images? How to you you ar going to sell your talent? You dont have a portfolio. Sites like that should have portfolios, or at least client pages. You seriously need some help coding. http://www.webmonkey.com Try learnin there.
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client pages what do you mean by that???

i know about webmonkey.com i use it all the time by the way i'm only 15 thats why its not the best right now i'm still learning and with the pics not working thats cuz i fu*ked up the opther day and havent fixed it yet
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BenEbberly wrote:
This is a pretty good website where you can learn stuff, IMHO.



http://www.w3schools.com/



jubilaki wrote:
BenEbberly wtf are you on about ????




He is giving you a link where you can learn some good html.

IMHO means "In My Honest Opinion".
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Client pages meaning the people that have used your service, and have websites built buy you.
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Rat wrote:
Client pages meaning the people that have used your service, and have websites built buy you.

Which should not even need to be explained if you are intending to go into the webdev business IMHO.
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jubilaki wrote:
lol in class me teacher is trying to get me to use flash but he dosnt know how do use it himself


ok.your site is,well o.k.and it's step in the right direction.and it's your site.if you choose that design it's yours.hey i like it(course i dont have 'nough courge to post mine,so already,you've beat me.

by the way, flash is a good thing to learn.and it's usefull,but on a 56k,it's slow so if you do use it,just dont over-do it.
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the reson i dont have a cliant page would be because i havent built many sites just a one for my uncles bissnes and a few others i was planing on haveing one of them eventurly

i am starting to learn to use flash i just havent made anything good enuf to use yet

and with what was said about the good site i'm sorry i didnt see the link i thought that you were being sarcastic about my site so thx for the site i have about 10 diferent sites that i get info from
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i think the site is basic for a webdesigners site. I am not sure how much business you will get. I don't think free domains are the way to go either.
Sorry mate...
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thats cool i need all coments

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