MS offering to buy out Yahoo

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I just read this article on ZDNet and it made me think. I have two yahoo accounts and yahoo messenger and this really makes me want to get rid of them ASAP. I do not like to use any MS based email or Applications if I can help it (besides Office as it seems to be a universal format).

I was curious what people thought about the potential for this if it would help / hurt the search engine, compete more with google, etc... It seems as is MS wants to obtain all they can to dominate the entire industry. As it stands they have a lock on PCs, software, vehicles more and more, and now they could potentially add searching to their list.
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I don't like Yahoo anyway so I don't care if MS buys them. If they were trying to buy google, then I would be concerned.
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I am not a fan of Yahoo but it give MS more power that they don't need .... I use them for junk mail and stuff i don't wanna see on a daily basis.
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Did MS gain any power when they bought Hotmail?
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I just checked the stocks, as of now, yahoo's is up 8 points
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When they bought hotmail they suddenly had a useful Webmail/POP system. MSN had been tiny (and disliked) up until that point, read an interview with the Hotmail founder recently, interesting-ish.

I'm a moderate flickr, and heavy del.icio.us user, what will happen to them? And can anyone recommend alternatives? What will happen to YUI?
If I were the founder of Flickr or del.icio.us I'd be so angry - part of their deals was that they'd be reun independently, and it works really well. Pretty such MS are going to ruin everything. Gah!
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I use flickr alot as welll ... not like it matters as it will just kill all my myspace comments to people, but I also use it for posting images I want as my desktop and photo sharing ... Guess I got a plan for the weekend ...
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This would mean the majority of spam would be comming from one set of servers instead of two, right ?
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Don2007 wrote:
I don't like Yahoo anyway so I don't care if MS buys them. If they were trying to buy google, then I would be concerned.


Took the words right out of my mouth! :D
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Google would never sell to microsoft anyway, But as for them buying yahoo it does not bother me, Yahoo In my eyes are going down hill.
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To me it spells that Microsoft is concerned about losing their grip on the industry, and they want to get back in the game again by broadening their portfolio. Personally I don't want the takeover to go ahead - Though I'd have a lot more to say if they were looking at google.
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I wouldnt be worried If they looked at google, Becuase google would never sell to MS, And If they did google would never sell to them, Unless over night google became bankrupt, Which will never happen :P
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http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/ ... ernet.html

Google are not happy.
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If google had any brains, they would have tried to get Yahoo first. Both google and MS have a large amounts of accumulated capital and not a large amount of reinvestment opportunities. That is not unusual in a capitalist society especially when there is underconsumption as there is now.

So, we have one capitalist complaining that the other capitalist beat them to the punch. Well, too bad. That's the way it goes. Maybe google should make an offer of their own. They certainly have the money.
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I wouldn't have thought Google could buy Yahoo, given then they would have a hold over the market share...
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They wouldn't own more than the market share of search engines. I can name 5 or 6 of them off the top of my head. Google just missed the boat.
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Google is retaliating ... going to policy makers and reaching out to yahoo, as MS would potentially monopolize the internet with this purchase ... this will prove to be interesting.
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I don't see how they would monopolize the internet at all. Nothing I do on the net has anything to do with Yahoo and never will. Not only that, anyone who doesn't like the idea of the purchase can boycott Yahoo.
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I don't see how they would monopolize the internet at all. Nothing I do on the net has anything to do with Yahoo and never will. Not only that, anyone who doesn't like the idea of the purchase can boycott Yahoo.

Yeah, I intend to. But that's going to be quite difficult, there is NOTHING to replace flickr (yes, there are photo-sharing sites, but none with the same community feel), I've got my memory of the net stored in del.icio.us, I still use their mail occasionally etc.
On top of this, what about all of Yahoo!'s contributions to open source projects? Their Wikipedia donations? Their OpenID project? YUI?
This is not just about search, and MS know it. Everything I've said above has alternatives, but this just reduces the level of competition available. Yahoo were active (often leader of) in many areas.
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I didn't know that Yahoo made contributions to open source. Am I correct in guessing that there will be no more of those?
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http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/wha ... buys-yahoo

Good (if vague) summary of the open source prospects. Apart from their own developer portal (which includes loads of stuff) they've apparently contributed to: "PHP, FreeBSD, Squid, gSOAP, Hadoop", not to mention that they own Zimbra.
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http://news.wired.com/dynamic/stories/M/MICROSOFT_YAHOO_CLASH?SITE=WIRE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-02-04-09-05-46

:-/ ... They are apparently fairly close companies ... But the anti-trust must sign off on it before Yahoo would be added to M$ even if Yahoo sold out. So there might be a chance?
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dyefade: Vague is an understatement, so I searched a little further to see exactly what they have done for the open source world.
They have released two libraries for public use under the BSD license.
http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/ ... d_des.html

As far as PHP goes, they just decided to use it instead of using their proprietary scripting language. I see that as a book decision to save money, not as a contribution.

I'm not knocking Yahoo for that. I'm just trying to find the facts.

kbergmann: The AP article that appeared on wired really didn't tell me anything but that's AP for you. I was never a fan of AP anyway.
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Should be intresting to see what happens to people who are hosted with yahoo, I would put money on it that MS up the prices of hosting :P
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Trust you to think of the hosting... how much of Yahoo's business is related to hosting anyway?
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lol someone had to think of it :P A lot of people have hosting with yahoo. Im just looking forward to seeing how much downtime there will be :P
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As far as downtime goes, prollie about the same (if they don't change it at all and can fix it as effeciently)

If they alter it, I'd get a new host if I had a page with them ... :)
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Let's not forget Yahoos' recent platnum sponsorship of Apache.
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Ok, that's saying something for Yahoo.

On another note, there is something I just learned. It's not the first offer MS made. The attempted to buy Yahoo when Yahoo had another CEO. That CEO rejected the offer by MS.

I want to go back to something I said before. Google blew it by not trying to buy Yahoo themselves and if the deal is completed, it's too bad for google. They were asleep at the wheel.
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http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... nohoo.html

Hurray!
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Anyone think Microsoft will bite on $40 a share ?
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I'm not even sure that Yahoo's $40+/share (aka $56+ billion according to ars) is real. Looks like they're just trying to save face by putting the figure higher than even MS can produce.

They'd rather just play nice with Google, even if it puts them in a precarious position, than roll over for MS.
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The 52 week high was 34.08. I don't know about 40.
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Yeah, the article itself says the last time they hit 40 was 2005.
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Well, most people look at the 52 week high but one never knows what's on MS's mind.
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If that two big companies will merge, possible that it will compete well to google.
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The worst thing about any absorption of one large company by another is, there will be a loss of jobs. Downsizing always takes place. That puts more people out of work and confirms The Theory Of Increasing Misery.
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Yahoo refused the offer .... *peach* you M$ :)
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That's good news.
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It was "news" two days ago...
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Sorry dyefade ... It just popped up on my gmail ....
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I wasn't going to apologize to him for not knowing that 2 days ago.
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I demand an apology, and tribute!
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LOL
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dyefade wrote:
I demand an apology, and tribute!


Yess'um Massa, me so sorry! haha
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i guess Yahoo just take some time whether a good offer is coming, and if my guess is right, Yahoo might sell it to Google rather in MSN unless MSN raise its offer
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Yahoo is still considering a Google partnership as a means of fending Microsoft off, the papers say and you may read it here
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/micr ... 131501.asp
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I don't think anything would change if Microsoft bought Yahoo!, but I wouldn't particularly like to see Yahoo! products change like Live Search integrated with Yahoo! Search, etc. Let's just see what happens.
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Here are few quotes from a couple of different news sites, on the takeover bid and a site that provides a few possible scenarios as to why things are happening they way they are.

In an effort to avoid being gobbled up by Microsoft, the struggling Internet firm has reportedly explored alliances with Google, Time Warner-owned America On Line, and social networking website MySpace owned by News Corp.Some

Yahoo stock holders in California are suing the firm for not accepting an offer Microsoft made to buy Yahoo early last year, when the stock price was higher.

Alibaba, the big Chinese e-commerce company is 39% owned by Yahoo Inc. That has been OK for Alibaba; Yahoo has not taken any role in running the company. But, the firm and the Chinese government are a little worried that Microsoft Corp. will not see it that way if it buys Yahoo!

http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/bu ... he-weekend
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The most important thing, which I have said before, is that any time there are acquisitions such as that, jobs are eliminated and "The Theory Of Increasing Misery" is proven once again. It is always the workers who suffer, therefore, the acquisition shouldn't take place.
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I personally think that , that purchase would have been a good one. Was it really undervalued by Microsoft? Now that Yahoo is sued again,

David Filo ,co-founder of Yahoo is good friend with Larry Page. Yahoo has not only use Google search engine to enhance the searching scalability , it has also acquired a tech-firm owned by Larry's brother for about hundreds of millions a few years ago.

In acquisition, I had a client who worked for a local bank here was transferred to a different location because of acquisition with a larger bank. He had increased in salary. The downsides could be wider scope ,and definitely more competitive. He was very worried about his job ,at first about the acquisition he thought he might get fired.

And i really have no idea if, Yahoo purposefully was trying to team up with Google ,against Microsoft as friendship, or Was it really undervalued and Yahoo sees it in business sense ?

I foresee more goods than bads, like not much will be changed . Besides a maybe "different" logo and enhanced features..

Follow this link if you want to know more about the news i found here:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/y ... f#comments
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Even I will be very happy if MS overtakes Yahoo. Instead of two crappy Search Engines, may be we will get one better product.
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I hope MSN don't take Yahoo over.
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nicolemurphy: There is no guarantee that you'll get a good product if MS takes Yahoo. When they bought hotmail, there were a lot of problems. Besides that, takeovers usually mean loss of jobs.
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Microhoo doesn't sound good. I prefer Yahoo as a creative seperate company
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Earlier, I was thinking, it'd be interesting to watch the takeover but now I think again, I realized that I'm just worried when microsoft makes something out of yahoo and we need to pay something..

Cuz Microsoft doesn't give much free, or open source stuff...
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That is the problem, Microsoft wants you to pay for stuff
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oh! that is alarming. i want yahoo that way and yahoo give more free services than MSN.
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MS has already acquired some shares from Yahoo, I think( not sure ) but the share is not big enough for MS to make most decisions.

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