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Did anyone notice Yahoo update site:yourdomain this morning?? All 10 of my websites about tour and travel are index by Yahoo plus my own website too. But several of my website competitors list by Yahoo are still main page and they are old player on internet. I am happy now but still confuse and get weird about my competitor. Are they use some trick so Yahoo don't want to get list of them or what happen??
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I understood half of what you said!!!! I also saw something happening to Yahoo this morning, and I posted it on another thread. Please be more precise.



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Nothing happen to me in goole.. but yahoo.. did

my backlinks has gone down in a large amount.. i dont have any idea why yahoo act like this today :x
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Yahoo update started on the 20th and is still going. That is why your backlinks dropped.
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google is acting weird to index my new sites too.
it takes too long :-( yahoo and msn already indexed my new sites.

rtchar sent me an article which I find interseting.
the articles mentioned most of sypmtons that my new site is experiencing....

but I disagree that its a san box though...
Disagreed with some other statements made in article too....
Take a pinch :wink:

this article
Quote:
Big Sandbox for Google, AskJeeves & Yahoo. MSN Indexes Quickest
By Mike Banks Valentine (c) 2005

Listing delays that have come to be called the Google Sandbox
effect are actually true in practice at each of four top tier
search engines in one form or another. MSN, it seems has the
shortest indexing delay at 30 days. This article is the
second in a series following the spiders through a brand new
web site beginning on May 11, 2005 when the site was first
made live on that day under a newly purchased domain name.
http://publish101.com/Sandbox2

Previously we looked at the first 35 days and detailed the
crawling behavior of Googlebot, Teoma, MSNbot and Slurp as
they traversed the pages of this new site. We discovered that
each robot spider displays distinctly different behavior in
crawling frequency and similarly differing indexing patterns.

For reference, there are about 15 to 20 new pages added to
the site daily, which are each linked from the home page for
a day. Site structure is non-traditional with no categories
and a linking structure tied to author pages listing their
articles as well as a "related articles" index varied by
linking to relevant pages containing similar content.

So let's review where we are with each spider crawling and
look at pages crawled and compare pages indexed by engine.

The AskJeeves spider, Teoma has crawled most of the pages on
the site, yet indexes no pages 60 days later at this writing.
This is clearly a site aging delay that's modeled on Google's
Sandbox behavior. Although the Teoma spider from Ask.com has
crawled more pages on this site than any other engine over a
60 day period and appears to be tired of crawling as they've
not returned since July 13 - their first break in 60 days.

In the first two days, Googlebot gobbled up 250 pages and
didn't return until 60 days later, but has not indexed even
a single page in 60 days since they made that initial crawl.
But Googlebot is showing a renewed interest in crawling the
site since this crawling case study article was published
on several high traffic sites. Now Googlebot is looking at a
few pages each day. So far no more than about 20 pages at a
decidedly lackluster pace, a true "Crawl" that will keep it
occupied for years if continued that slowly.

MSNbot crawled timidly for the first 45 days, looking over
30 to 50 pages daily, but not until they found a robots.txt
file, which we'd neglected to post to the site for a week and
then bobbled the ball as we changed site structure, then
failed to implement robots.txt in new subdomains until day
25 - and THEN MSNbot didn't return until day 30. If little
else were discovered about initial crawls and indexing, we
have seen that MSNbot relies heavily on that robots.txt file
and proper implementation of that file will speed crawling.

MSNbot is now crawling with enthusiasm at anywhere between
200 to 800 pages daily. As a matter of fact, we had to use
a "crawl-delay" command in the robots.txt file after MSNbot
began hitting 6 pages per second last week. The MSN index now
shows 4905 pages 60 days into this experiment. Cached pages
change weekly. MSNbot has apparently found that it likes how
we changed the page structure to include a new feature which
links to questions from several other article pages.

Slurp gets strangely inactive then alternately hyperactive
for periods of time. The Yahoo crawler will look at 40 pages
one day and then 4000 the next, then simply look at the home
page for a few days and then jump back in for 3000 pages the
next day and back to only reviewing robots.txt for two days.
Consistency is not a curse suffered by Slurp. Yahoo now shows
6 pages in their index, one an errors page and another is a
"index/of" page as we have not posted a home page to several
subdomains. But Slurp has crawled easily 15,000 pages to date.

Lessons learned in the first 60 days on a new site follow:

1) Google crawls 250 pages on first discovery of links to site.
Then they don't return until they find more links and crawl
slowly. Google has failed to index new domain for 60 days.

2) Yahoo looks for errors pages and once they find bad links
will crawl them ceaselessly until you tell them to stop it.
Then won't crawl at all for weeks until crawling heavily
one day and lightly the next in random fashion.

3) MSNbot requires robots.txt files and once they decide they
like your site, may crawl too fast, requiring "crawl-delay"
instructions in that robots.txt file. Implement immediately.

4) Bad bots can strain resources and hit too many pages too
quickly until you tell them to stay out. We banned 3 bots
outright after they slammed our servers for a day or two.
Noted "aipbot" crawled first then "BecomeBot" came along
and then "Pbot" from Picsearch.com crawled heavily looking
for image files we don't have. Bad bots, stay out. Best to
implement robots.txt exclusions for all but top engines if
their crawlers strain your server resources. We considered
excluding the Chinese search engine named Baidu.com when
they began crawling heavily early on. We don't expect much
traffic from China, but why exclude one billion people?
Especially since Google is rumored to be considering a
possible purchase of Baidu.com as entry to Chinese market.

The bottom line is that we've discovered all engines seem to
delay indexing of new domain names for at least thirty days.
Google so far has delayed indexing THIS new domain for 60
days since first crawling it. AskJeeves has crawled thousands
of pages, while indexing none of them. MSN indexes faster than
all engines but requires robots.txt file. Yahoo's Slurp crawls
on again off again for 60 days, but indexes only six of total
15,000 or more pages crawled to date.

We seem to have settled that there is a clear indexing delay,
but whether this site is officially "Sandboxed" and whether
that delay is universal is less clear. Many webmasters claim
that they have been indexed fully within 30 days of first
posting a new domain. We'd love to see others track spiders
through new sites following launch to document their results
publicly so that indexing and crawling behavior are proven.





i donno who this author is and i disgreeed with these statements made in his "lessons learned in the first 60 days"


his site symptons are abt the same as my new sites though :)
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I don't seem to have any problem with Yahoo. Though there have not been any new pages from site indexed in Yahoo, I suppose but that has been the case with Google too. MSN is a great search engine. It visits my site once in 20 days.

One more thing, I seriously couldn't understand what the first post meant. What did "Krisna" want? Perhaps, could someone explain better to me?

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Anyone seeing any better results in Y?
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Definitely. Inktomi has been crawling our place pretty heavily. Still the number 1 result for our primary key phrase out of over 1.2 million. They also picked up on some very recent revisions I did where Google has not.
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Sorry for my confuse post. I mean my competitor's websites only index by Yahoo their 1st page(main page) only. And I know they have a good rank in Google (top 10) but when I use command site:yourdomain.com at Yahoo!, their website only index by Yahoo their main page only. They also an old player at hotels and travel website.
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Hi,

My site Akne Behandlung is listed in Google and MSN with all pages but Yahoo is not indexing it, It picked only 2 pages while google and MSN has updated it.

Any one have idea? Please reply

Thank you.

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